Whelen EU lightbarcolors vs US lightbarcolors

[busbart]

Hello All,


I know that this subject has passed here before, but i could'nt find it again.


does anybody have a link for me?


Whelen EU lightbarcolors vs US lightbarcolors.


Thanks in advance,


Bart

 

[hitechrednex]

what are you trying to figure out what each color is used for, or what colors are used in each country?

 

[Newberry13]

I believe the red, amber, and green are in the same color spectrum range. The only difference is the blue. The US blue is significantly lighter then the EU blue. Just the opposite is true for purple. In the US, we have a dark purple lens. Everywhere that I've seen uses magenta, though it looks more like a light violet to me.


Hopefully someone will be able to pull up the color wavelength requirements. I looked, but couldn't find them.

 

[RJ*]

The European color is called CIE blue.

 

[NPS Ranger]

Who knows about Swedish blue, which is different?

 

[nerdly_dood]

Who knows about Swedish blue, which is different?

I saw something in a fedsig parts list about it but I've got no idea what exactly it means.

 

[SireLite]

The Amber used by Whelen EU is also a slightly different shade. It's more of a tangerine colour compared to the US yellowy Amber.

 

[proled]

The European color is called CIE blue.

Thought it was DIN blue in Europe...

 

[Matt C.]

Thought it was DIN blue in Europe...

Unless you color them yourself.... then it's DIY Blue

 

[ERIC6913]

ok people lets get this straight. outside of europe its designated/called, cie blue. inside of europe its designated/called "R-65" blue.

 

[nerdly_dood]

ok people lets get this straight. outside of europe its designated/called, cie blue. inside of europe its designated/called "R-65" blue.

I thought that within Europe, what we call "CIE Blue" is just called "Blue".

 

[ERIC6913]

I thought that within Europe, what we call "CIE Blue" is just called "Blue".

no, they actually have a different shade of blue for each technology, i.e. halogen, strobe and led. the most common being R-65 blue for halogen. European Regulations are much more specific and closely followed. If a light is not approved for use, then you are not allowed to run it.

 

[FGS]

If deep blue is for europe and light blue is for US. How come I have seen both of them here in Liberties? That's just for one department. They use both shade of blue on their PD cars. As much I love the deep blue LEDs but seeing both shades made me wonder.

 

[WS224]

Unless you color them yourself.... then it's DIY Blue

I can't believe no one got it......

 

[nerdly_dood]

If deep blue is for europe and light blue is for US. How come I have seen both of them here in Liberties? That's just for one department. They use both shade of blue on their PD cars. As much I love the deep blue LEDs but seeing both shades made me wonder.

The lighter-blue LED color in some Liberties isn't intended to be there. Whelen gets their LEDs cheaper if they can allow a wider color range in the "blue" category than the typical deep royal blue that ought to be used, which requires more precise manufacturing (or something like that). It doesn't have anything to do with American or European lightbar colors - that's mainly only intended to cover strobe and halogen lights.


There is at least one thread devoted to complaints about Whelen's light blue LEDs.

 

[RJ*]

no, they actually have a different shade of blue for each technology, i.e. halogen, strobe and led. the most common being R-65 blue for halogen. European Regulations are much more specific and closely followed. If a light is not approved for use, then you are not allowed to run it.

Yes and no. ECE R-65 (or just R-65 for short) is actually the document regulating all warning lights - be they halogen, strobe, LED or whatever. R-65 only recognises blue and amber as warning colors. The full text can be found here:


http://www.unece.org/trans/main/wp29/wp29regs/r065r1e.pdf


IMHO, the document is a bit confusingly written, and needs to be redone due to advances in lighting technology.

 

[ERIC6913]

Yes and no. ECE R-65 (or just R-65 for short) is actually the document regulating all warning lights - be they halogen, strobe, LED or whatever. R-65 only recognises blue and amber as warning colors. The full text can be found here:
http://www.unece.org/trans/main/wp29/wp29regs/r065r1e.pdf


IMHO, the document is a bit confusingly written, and needs to be redone due to advances in lighting technology.

well, i do know for a fact that Federal and Hella have different shades for different technologies.