roush17
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new 2013 tuarus police interceptors will be replacing cvpi starting in october to all ct state police
CT State Trooper Cars...
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kitn1mcc
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kitn1mcc said:
Since MHQ came to Connecticut, they have had to buy a few department new cars. I think they set one of Enfield's on fire.
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kitn1mcc
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The 2013 CSP cars should be arriving at the dealership by mid August. The plan is to have 30 built per month. You should start seeing them late September.
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Outsider,
Reading those specs, I noticed the only product using XLP modules is the Inner-Edge. I'd imagine that a large agency such as the CSP would be one of the first agencies to field-test new products; is Whelen not planning to expand the inclusion of XLP technology into other products? I was hoping to see an updated Dominator XLP and XLP perimeter lightheads.
Reading those specs, I noticed the only product using XLP modules is the Inner-Edge. I'd imagine that a large agency such as the CSP would be one of the first agencies to field-test new products; is Whelen not planning to expand the inclusion of XLP technology into other products? I was hoping to see an updated Dominator XLP and XLP perimeter lightheads.
firebuff17
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Outsider said:
For a resident of CT for 33 years, I hope that these descriptions of the new cars are correct. Would be nice to see CT troopers with some updated lighting. They have always remained basic as far as lighting (overhead bar, ELF, and several versions of CHMSL lighting). Plus you would think having home turf advantage that CT would have hooked up with Whelen to prototype designs earlier than this.
PJH
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The cars will "look" nice, it can also be a bit overkill. These are not the days of the lower light producing products. However, I suspect with the Cantrol systems being used that it will be controlled and not blind the oncoming drivers and creating more of a hazard. Its bad enough that some cars are already outfitted like this with personal equipmant and you'd think your on final approach to a runway at JFK...
PJH
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That what it appears to be. Remember, once off duty and home, the bars usually come off. I suspect that the addition of the inneredges are to help facilitate a quicker off-duty response when required and visibilty when they conduct and off-duty traffic stop, come across a MVA, DMV, etc.
By contract, they are required to stop for motorists, etc - however at the least they have to let the troop know in the case they have family in the vehicle, or didn't see it in time to stop, etc.
By contract, they are required to stop for motorists, etc - however at the least they have to let the troop know in the case they have family in the vehicle, or didn't see it in time to stop, etc.
firebuff17
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PJH said:
I was going to add to that as well. I HOPE that the inner edges are designed to be used only when overhead bars are off of the vehicles. Otherwise it sounds like a decent 360 coverage. And who knows what the "new" only for CT control system will be programmed for. Like it was deceived, sounds like it is a multi tier setup to respond accordingly to the pursuit switch or other inputs. Will be very interesting to see.
kitn1mcc
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the state is in a budget crunch thanks to daaaaaloy. i seen a few cars with inner edges me thinks the troppers them selfs added them
firebuff17
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kitn1mcc said:
Yes... If you see CVPI with inner edges now, than they are privately owned by the respective trooper. And yes, state is on budget crunch, but as "whelen" (the user on here) had posted the new cars have some "only for CT" lighting/patterns/software, maybe Whelen (the company) is providing it to the state at a reduced price to beta test the new equipment/software. (Well, at least half of me thinks that, being a tax payor, but the other half is excited about the upgraded lighting due to me being an enthusiast about flashy lights)
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The state gets whatever discount it gets, but I know people were not happy years back when the State took the install contract away from them. They built into the contract requirements for basically security fencing and all sorts of weird stuff that I recall. Whelen wasn't about to fence in acres of fields, and had enough installs to keep them busy year round. I do know, especially back in the day... that if you showed up in a crusier and needed a little tweaking that they where more than happy to help and usually didn't charge.
Without first hand knowledge, I am sure that when the contract for new equipment came up a good deal was made, but I don't see anything for beta equipment etc was done. Its just a custom programming or most likely minor modifications to a product. No different than the CHP deal, doing the Michigan retrofits, etc.
You'd hope that the hometown state would help out a home town company, but the current politics in CT screams about stuff like that. Someone a few years back was screaming about how some state people (IIRC) got a free ride on the corporate jet and didn't have to pay for expenses of some sort.
This is also the state that screwed over the unions crying about budgets, but the Gov goes out and orders a couple of new Gov cars, remodels the Gov Mansion and all sorts of questionable expenidtures, yet blames the state workers for costing the state money when they need tape in the tape dispensers.
Without first hand knowledge, I am sure that when the contract for new equipment came up a good deal was made, but I don't see anything for beta equipment etc was done. Its just a custom programming or most likely minor modifications to a product. No different than the CHP deal, doing the Michigan retrofits, etc.
You'd hope that the hometown state would help out a home town company, but the current politics in CT screams about stuff like that. Someone a few years back was screaming about how some state people (IIRC) got a free ride on the corporate jet and didn't have to pay for expenses of some sort.
This is also the state that screwed over the unions crying about budgets, but the Gov goes out and orders a couple of new Gov cars, remodels the Gov Mansion and all sorts of questionable expenidtures, yet blames the state workers for costing the state money when they need tape in the tape dispensers.
kitn1mcc
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the whelen facility is very secure only one way in and out and belive me you will be seen
those cars were some of the best installed cars of the CVPI they also had to install 3 sets of radios at that time and a bunch of other crap that was only there for a short time.
those cars were some of the best installed cars of the CVPI they also had to install 3 sets of radios at that time and a bunch of other crap that was only there for a short time.
roush17
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Outsider said:
a trooper told me and my friend the same thing around September the whole state switching to Taurus pi
kitn1mcc
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Alright so since we are on the topic of the new cars here they are.
Silver Ford police interceptor sedan:
Sentina push bumper
White vertex in head light
Sidekicks with red Ion V series
Full Inner edge xlp (non wecan)
Blue TIR3 on "b" piller
4 ions on rear deck
Red vertex in tails
White vertex in b/u
Wecan liberty with HID takedowns
Cantrol with a program written for them. (But all cantrol programs are custom just like a cencom)
Tough book
Panasonic arbatrator
SUV is the same with a few changes, V-2s on fender not ion-v, dominator in rear window not ions.
Troopers are no longer aloud to modify their cars.
Silver Ford police interceptor sedan:
Sentina push bumper
White vertex in head light
Sidekicks with red Ion V series
Full Inner edge xlp (non wecan)
Blue TIR3 on "b" piller
4 ions on rear deck
Red vertex in tails
White vertex in b/u
Wecan liberty with HID takedowns
Cantrol with a program written for them. (But all cantrol programs are custom just like a cencom)
Tough book
Panasonic arbatrator
SUV is the same with a few changes, V-2s on fender not ion-v, dominator in rear window not ions.
Troopers are no longer aloud to modify their cars.
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PJH
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It is (was) sop that you could add in additional electronic equipment as lp g as you didn't use the circuits that the department equipment is installed in. I haven't come across any new general orders but haven't looked either.
Info on the purpose behind allowing any off duty use of their vehicles.
PRIVATE USE OF POLICE TROOPER VEHICLES IN CONNECTICUT AND NEIGHBORING STATES
PRIVATE USE OF POLICE TROOPER VEHICLES IN CONNECTICUT AND NEIGHBORING STATES
PJH
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Thats nothing new. Thats the states branch of the US GAO, but usually with a spin on it. What that report doesn't say is that NY Troopers can only take vehicles home (if they want) if their next shift is right off their rest. They work 12 hours shift cycle and some of the assigned remote barracks (depending on where they live and assigned) makes it impractical to drive all the way back from home while in their patrol district when they can simply go on duty from their driveway.
CSP doesn't allow use of the vehicles over 50 miles of state lines without authorization. All cars are GPS tracked and has been used to discipline troopers who have gone out of range, if noticed.
NJSP - I've never known a trooper that takes it home unless they are primary patrollers in town they live in.
Either way, it a contract deal and has been past practice for 50 years and has worked out well.
CSP doesn't allow use of the vehicles over 50 miles of state lines without authorization. All cars are GPS tracked and has been used to discipline troopers who have gone out of range, if noticed.
NJSP - I've never known a trooper that takes it home unless they are primary patrollers in town they live in.
Either way, it a contract deal and has been past practice for 50 years and has worked out well.
kitn1mcc
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there getting silver cars on this order. but once ford says hey we have this color at a special price
NFD-102
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Each troop also has a couple of unmarked chargers now, most are either silver or black. They have them for the highway and for some of the detectives. They have regular hubcaps and the only antenna is the round GPS antenna on the roof. They are very stealthy and the only thing that gives them away is the blacked out windows. I have seen several of them on our calls in the Troop L area. I will try and get a picture one of these days. They are awesome looking cars.
The equipment in the chargers include:
Front (I may have missed some)
Whelen M7 in grill R/B
Whelen Inner edge XLP R/B
Possibly a headlight flasher
Side
Whelen Ions in side windows
Rear
Whelen Inner edge R/B
Whelen Vertex R/B
Taillight flasher
The equipment in the chargers include:
Front (I may have missed some)
Whelen M7 in grill R/B
Whelen Inner edge XLP R/B
Possibly a headlight flasher
Side
Whelen Ions in side windows
Rear
Whelen Inner edge R/B
Whelen Vertex R/B
Taillight flasher
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PJH
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The traffic guys have been getting them for awhile now, if they want them (most do). Troopers who are working in the detective capacity (its not a "rank" but an assignment) can keep their vehicles or turn them in for a more "street" looking vehicle, depending on what they are working on or what unit they are assigned to. The commissioner and/or colonal at one point had some plain jane Ford Fusion (or something like that) as their daily driver.
kitn1mcc
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the DMV has gone unmarked as well. just wish the truck guys would not pull over trucks on 95 during rush hour
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B4C
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B4C said:
Not cheap but there ya go for the new one. I think I have a old style PM me if you're interest.
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Not quite accurate - the "Cruise lights" are controlled via a button on the Cantrol controller....so they do have the option to leave them off...the STATE POLICE sign too. The controller's have a specific CRUISE button, which is a multi state button that has several different cruise modes (front, rear, front and rear & sides, no amber, just the outter modules lit, entire bars etc lit)