I wish my car was more like Jordan's with the strobes farther forward. They aren't bad when you have the head lights off; when they are on, you can see something flashing, just hard to see head on. I really like how the high beams are seperate from the main light, it seems to give the wig-wag's a little more punch, esp with the head lights on. If you are going with vertex HAW, I would do like the other guy's car and have then on the side. If you are doing something more candle shaped, do like mine. Since the other guy is on the other rotation, we never work together so Im not really sure how his look. I really like having strobes in the rear, and would love it if I could have the strobes pop together when the traffic backer is doing the brake lights.