Honolulu Police Vehicles (More pictures)

[nerdly_dood]

My preference would be for a rotating beacon, but whatever works works. Does HPD require certain models of beacons, or can cops pick their own? I notice the black 'Stang has a mini-bar and the rest have the beacon...

It's amazing that what would mean vol fire in one state means full blown police in another.

I proposed a solution to that, and naturally it turned into a flame war and got moved to The Ring.


(No editing posts there so go to page 4 of "The Law" to download the latest, simplest version)

 

[colby4601]

The light on the car has to be capable of emitting a low powered, blue steady burn signal 360º. If the light is capable of doing so, then let it be mounted.

 

[RJ*]

There is also a policy enacted for both marked and unmarked units where there must be steady burn blue somewhere 360º when the unit is on duty.

That pretty much makes unmarked units pointless then.

 

[colby4601]

POV units used for patrol, yes. Detectives units and plainclothes sections using unmarked cars don't need to have that steady burn light on because they aren't running the risks of making a "routine" traffic stop.


It was only a couple of years ago, maybe 3, where a defense lawyer successfully argued that the Police Officer who pulled over his client in his POV had "entrapped" him because there was no telling that POV was an actual cop car. It was a crock defense, but it worked and as such, HPD came out with a policy that said, at night, there had to be some form of 360º low powered, steady burn blue light on marked and unmarked units to a) appropriately identify them as police cars and B) let the public know whether that vehicle was on duty/in service or not.

 

[dmathieu]

Here is what they used in the 1970s.


8" tall x 6 1/2" wide.


Whelen Model 44 Senior Deputy.


Dan

 

[nerdly_dood]

Something I haven't seen anyone mention is the import cost. Hawaii is thousands of miles away from pretty much anything, so it makes sense to me that certain cops can use pretty much any permitted car they can get their hands on and it doesn't have to be a CVPI, Charger or Impala. I've heard that in Hawaii a hamburger costs TEN DOLLARS so it would follow that typical police cars and their equipment would also be extremely expensive, so any manner of cost-cutting, such as using a wider variety of vehicles that were already going to Hawaii (rather than being ordered specifically such as a CVPI or 9C1) would be absolutely necessary.


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[colby4601]

For me to go and buy a gallon of milk at the store costs roughly $10.11. That's one, 4L jug.

 

[dmathieu]

I wonder if they will show any of these on the new Hawaii 5-0. The previews don't look too promising as far as the show itself.


Dan

 

[VolEms]

I think they should put the Whelen L31 on the roof .

 

[dmathieu]

I think they should put the Whelen L31 on the roof .

I think that would be a great choice. It has cruise light with 4 levels of brightness. and is lo-pro. The L32 is even lower.


Dan

 

[nerdly_dood]

I think that would be a great choice. It has cruise light with 4 levels of brightness. and is lo-pro. The L32 is even lower.


Dan

I love the L31, but the L32 seems a bit too low profile, it's just a little thin wafer. The L31 costs more but it's got more meat to it, and it's very bright.

 

[warubozu47]

In response to nerdly_dood regarding the lights that HPD uses on their POVs


HPD has 4 types of beacons/mini-bars that are in use for subsidized POVs.


1. Whelen Model 44 Rota-beam Senior with cruise light mounted on a plate above the rotator housing( Will post pic soon)


2. Whelen 1200 Series Strobe with cruise light


3. Whelen 800DHBP Series Strobe with cruise light


4. Whelen mini-liberty with cruise light (built with custom flasher to allow for all flash or cruise light option)


The mini-liberties were a test project, so only a limited number were purchased and issued.


Single beacons are mounted to a cheetah 501 rooftop strap


Mini-Liberties are mounted to a cheetah 007 (i think) rooftop strap in combination with suction cups to hold it down better.

 

[warubozu47]

Some folks were talking about PD's Rota-beam Senior - Model 44 and the quick disconnect. Here are pictures of the quick disconnect mount, probably one of very few still left in existence here in Honolulu. Even the guys at telcom sec. can't find um. I'll put up the pic of the rota-beam in the near future.

 

[dmathieu]

I have one of those quick disconnect nipples, as well as the base that goes with it to fit the smaller Rota Beams. I'm looking for the larger nipple. The base it mates with is a heavy cast aluminum rounded bottom base that extends about 1" below the base of the light.


Dan

 

[warubozu47]

That is weird. I would think they would want some kind of sticker or something on the car to say "Look, I am a real cop, just not some ice head looking to kill and rob you"

Hi folks, after reading quite a few posts, I hope to shed some light on the following:


1. Subsidized vehicles that are authorized for use need to meet cetain criteria; wheelbase, engine displacement, fuel type, and a few other specs.


2. Aside from the blue dome on the cheetah strap, and the 800MhZ antenna, there really isnt a way to tell if it's an authorized vehicle or not. Amazingly, we have had only one incident in which a murder suspect tried to impersonate a police officer and supposively used blue grill lights in his vehicle to pull the female victim over. Since then, HPD has not allowed grill fixtures to be installed in POV's. Another order states that to pull someone over for a infraction, you need to be in uniform and have the dome light on the roof. If you have neither, you are supposed to call for a uniformed patrol officer prior to initiating the traffic stop.


3. Cruise/Co-pilot lights were always supposed to be on per policy when patroling to instill a sense of presence within the community. However, in some cases, they are turned off.


Cheers!

 

[DEMCERT808]

I wonder if they will show any of these on the new Hawaii 5-0. The previews don't look too promising as far as the show itself.
Dan

The pilot of the new Hawaii Five-O was shot using older styles Ford CVPI and their Mercury variant. Episodes 2 and 3 (thus far).... because of Chevy's exclusive with the show, have forced them to use the Chevy Impala. Real Honolulu Police vehicle fleet is primarily composed of Ford CVPI's. There were only a small handfull of Chevy Impala's introduced into Honolulu PD's fleet. The vehicle graphics from the pilot show up to episode 3 are similar in design, however the main door badge decal is modified and is not the real Honolulu PD door badge design.

 

[DEMCERT808]

Something I haven't seen anyone mention is the import cost. Hawaii is thousands of miles away from pretty much anything, so it makes sense to me that certain cops can use pretty much any permitted car they can get their hands on and it doesn't have to be a CVPI, Charger or Impala. I've heard that in Hawaii a hamburger costs TEN DOLLARS so it would follow that typical police cars and their equipment would also be extremely expensive, so any manner of cost-cutting, such as using a wider variety of vehicles that were already going to Hawaii (rather than being ordered specifically such as a CVPI or 9C1) would be absolutely necessary.

Re: Next post: ... :shock:

The cost to bring a car in from the mainland runs about ~$1000 for a typical civilian. It's not that crazy of a price. As far as hamburger costs in Hawaii, if you go to "fine hamburger" shops then yes expect to pay that. However, if your looking for fast food on Oahu, you can typically at least on the of the following within a 5 mile distance form where ever you are on the island. McDonalds, KFC, Popeyes, Jack In The Box, Burger King, Arby's, 7-11, etc.

 

[dmathieu]

The pilot of the new Hawaii Five-O was shot using older styles Ford CVPI and their Mercury variant. Episodes 2 and 3 (thus far).... because of Chevy's exclusive with the show, have forced them to use the Chevy Impala. Real Honolulu Police vehicle fleet is primarily composed of Ford CVPI's. There were only a small handfull of Chevy Impala's introduced into Honolulu PD's fleet. The vehicle graphics from the pilot show up to episode 3 are similar in design, however the main door badge decal is modified and is not the real Honolulu PD door badge design.

By the way, I think the new show stinks!


Dan

 

[warubozu47]

By the way, I think the new show stinks!


Dan

Hey Dan, I myself am not completely thrilled with the new series. Nothing can beat the original. There are a few minor problems with the show when it comes to local culture and stuff... Also, some inconsistencies with them filming two different CVPI's being represented as the same vehicle etc. We'll see what happens!


Jeff

 

[RL1]

Hey Dan, I myself am not completely thrilled with the new series. Nothing can beat the original. There are a few minor problems with the show when it comes to local culture and stuff... Also, some inconsistencies with them filming two different CVPI's being represented as the same vehicle etc. We'll see what happens!


Jeff

Ugh, I saw that, too. I hated it when I noticed they had a 'bubble' vic in one scene, a 'wedge' a few moments later, then a bubble again. Also, watched part of ep 2 and saw the main guy with a silver slide on his Sig in the elevator but a black one when he exited.

 

[MATT3045]

Ugh, I saw that, too. I hated it when I noticed they had a 'bubble' vic in one scene, a 'wedge' a few moments later, then a bubble again. Also, watched part of ep 2 and saw the main guy with a silver slide on his Sig in the elevator but a black one when he exited.

You mean there are guys in that show, all I have seen is Grace Park.

 

[Stendec]

1. Whelen Model 44 Rota-beam Senior with cruise light mounted on a plate above the rotator housing( Will post pic soon).....


Single beacons are mounted to a cheetah 501 rooftop strap


Mini-Liberties are mounted to a cheetah 007 (i think) rooftop strap in combination with suction cups to hold it down better.

There are still Rota-Beams in the field? I'd kill for one of those.


What's a cheetah strap?


And don't anybody say it's a leash for a cheetah. I Googled "cheetah strap" and one of the first hits was for a strap-on dildo. I'm pretty sure that isn't the right kind, unless it's blue and blinks.

 

[nerdly_dood]

I'd assume it'd be something like this


http://www.fedsig.com/products/index.php?id=134

 

[dmathieu]

Take a look at the pictures on the 1st page of this thread. I think these Roof straps are what's being refered to.


Dan

 

[warubozu47]

There are still Rota-Beams in the field? I'd kill for one of those.


What's a cheetah strap?


And don't anybody say it's a leash for a cheetah. I Googled "cheetah strap" and one of the first hits was for a strap-on dildo. I'm pretty sure that isn't the right kind, unless it's blue and blinks.

LOL, yeah that's typically what you would get if you did a search on that. The straps are made by Cheetah Cautionary Warning Products in Oregon.


The strap is expandable or contractable (by sliding) depending on the width of the vehicles roof. The end clamps are vehicle specific and can be ordered from Cheetah. What is missing is the other arm that stretches over to the other end of the suv/car. This has a latch that holds the two pieces together and provides enough tension to keep the bar secured to the roof.


Here is a picture of one of mine.

 

[warubozu47]

Ugh, I saw that, too. I hated it when I noticed they had a 'bubble' vic in one scene, a 'wedge' a few moments later, then a bubble again. Also, watched part of ep 2 and saw the main guy with a silver slide on his Sig in the elevator but a black one when he exited.

You mean there are guys in that show, all I have seen is Grace Park.

LOL, Grace Park is great... However she must have had a sex change, since Kono used to be a guy in the old series.

 

[warubozu47]

REALLY odd lighting with the single beacon. Do they run just blue or is there any red hidden in the full bars?

Yes, currently beacons and bars are all blue. Hawaii State Sheriffs use a red/blue combination.


However, it is noteworthy to mention that back in the 40's and 50's HPD used red beacons like the FS Model 17. I am not sure when they made the switch to blue though. My guess would be sometime in the mid-60's.

 

[warubozu47]

The cost to bring a car in from the mainland runs about ~$1000 for a typical civilian. It's not that crazy of a price. As far as hamburger costs in Hawaii, if you go to "fine hamburger" shops then yes expect to pay that. However, if your looking for fast food on Oahu, you can typically at least on the of the following within a 5 mile distance form where ever you are on the island. McDonalds, KFC, Popeyes, Jack In The Box, Burger King, Arby's, 7-11, etc.

Ho brah, try go check your spelling and grammar... Sounds like you trying for speak bird! It's ok dude, i'll just harass you next time you come down to the squadroom.

 

[warubozu47]

There are still Rota-Beams in the field? I'd kill for one of those.


What's a cheetah strap?


And don't anybody say it's a leash for a cheetah. I Googled "cheetah strap" and one of the first hits was for a strap-on dildo. I'm pretty sure that isn't the right kind, unless it's blue and blinks.

Yeah, they still have a few left on some of the reserve officers' POV's... They refuse to give them up!

 

[dmathieu]

LOL, yeah that's typically what you would get if you did a search on that. The straps are made by Cheetah Cautionary Warning Products in Oregon.


The strap is expandable or contractable (by sliding) depending on the width of the vehicles roof. The end clamps are vehicle specific and can be ordered from Cheetah. What is missing is the other arm that stretches over to the other end of the suv/car. This has a latch that holds the two pieces together and provides enough tension to keep the bar secured to the roof.


Here is a picture of one of mine.


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Does that have a cruise light? I couldn't see one>


Dan

 

[JohnMarcson]

Cheetah warning products also makes wide load, rural mail carrier and "school transportation" signs.

 

[warubozu47]

Does that have a cruise light? I couldn't see one>


Dan

Yeah, this beacon doesnt have a cruise light in it. I just stuck on the strap for visual aesthetics.

 

[warubozu47]

A few pics of the mini-liberty and 007 Cheetah strap.


Front View: Note the air dam on the front... This was offered as an option, but it causes rub marks on your roof...





Side view:





Side view: Close up of the suction cups

 

[RL1]

Oooh, I like the mix of tir and lin leds.

 

[warubozu47]

Oooh, I like the mix of tir and lin leds.

Yeah, it is pretty cool... Flash pattern is neat too... Outboards flash, then the inboards and sides flash...

 

[Phillyrube]

Is this guy an auxiliary? Has a base decal and staff sgt stripes

A few pics of the mini-liberty and 007 Cheetah strap.


Front View: Note the air dam on the front... This was offered as an option, but it causes rub marks on your roof...





Side view:





Side view: Close up of the suction cups

 

[cory y]

Look again .. he's a Tech.

 

[Stendec]

May I do have a secret fetish, but I'm hung up on this Cheetah strap thing, because it looks like it might solve a need for less than permanent mounting, but more than magnetic, on training cars. The only web reference I can find is a GoDaddy Domain claim - are they still in business. Are there distributors?

 

[Phillyrube]

I first looked at the picture and was thinking, "Is that a padlock?" NAAAAAAAH! later pix? Yep, it is!!

 

[Phillyrube]

Look again .. he's a Tech.

Hey, I'm an old Navy Chief!!! All them zoomies are sergeants of some kind..graduate boot resort and be a sergeant..heheheh :mrgreen: