Honolulu Police Vehicles (More pictures)

Stendec said:
May I do have a secret fetish, but I'm hung up on this Cheetah strap thing, because it looks like it might solve a need for less than permanent mounting, but more than magnetic, on training cars. The only web reference I can find is a GoDaddy Domain claim - are they still in business. Are there distributors?

Yeah these straps are great. They are definitely better than magnets, especially if youre doing some high speed driving. They were in business as of a month or two ago; I called them for some information. Their website may be down. If you want the number, I can get it to you. Let me know!
 
Phillyrube said:
I first looked at the picture and was thinking, "Is that a padlock?" NAAAAAAAH! later pix? Yep, it is!!

Yeah, contrary to popular belief, we do have dumb crumbs who will try and steal the strap. LOL Yet all they'd need to do is use a bolt cutter on the padlock and poof, strap and light gone...
 
Phillyrube said:
Is this guy an auxiliary? Has a base decal and staff sgt stripes

He's a regular motor-man (Officer with a POV). I am assuming he may be in the USAF reserve or something.
 
For some added clarification... some may be asking why is Honolulu PD's department owned CVPI's and officer's POV with LED lightbars have blue colored lens and why not just go all clear? Part of the reason why the department chose to continue the use of "blue lens" is mainly for ease of "police vehicle identification" by the general public. Long story short, the Whelen Liberty's on the department CVPI's and the Whelen Mini Liberty's on the POV's have blue lens with blue LEDs (with a little mix of some white).
 
warubozu47 said:
He's a regular motor-man (Officer with a POV). I am assuming he may be in the USAF reserve or something.

Could have bought the car from a tech who was PCS'ing and didn't bother to take the stickers off. I never took mine off my old car since the base didn't use them anymore and mine had just expired.
 
dmathieu said:
Do you have any pictures of the Model 44 Senior Deputy with the cruise light?
Dan

Yep, give me a day or two... Will post soon. In the meantime, here is my Serial Edge storage:


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dmathieu said:
Do you have any pictures of the Model 44 Senior Deputy with the cruise light?
Dan


Dan, sorry it took a while; been busy. This is one of probably six HPD rota-beams that are still around. I gotta clean it up some. Do you know if there are any sources for replacement domes? If not i am going to make a mold and do it myself.


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Cruise light - Exposed


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Cruise light - Exposed


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Bottom of beacon


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More pictures to come!


Regards,


Jeff
 
dmathieu said:
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Here is what they used in the 1970s.


8" tall x 6 1/2" wide.


Whelen Model 44 Senior Deputy.


Dan
Compare the HPD light to the standard factory version of the model 44. You'll note that the lens cage mounting plate on yours is flat, not raised, like the standard. The flat plate sets the lens cage lower, allowing room at the top for the cruise bulb. Truly customized for HPD. Very interesting. As far as domes, blue is very difficult to find. Let me see what I can find from my contacts before you spend the $ it will cost to to mold your own. I have 2 NOS blue on 2 of my display lights. See 100+ BEACONS thread in vintage and collectable section.


Dan
 
dmathieu said:
Compare the HPD light to the standard factory version of the model 44. You'll note that the lens cage mounting plate on yours is flat, not raised, like the standard. The flat plate sets the lens cage lower, allowing room at the top for the cruise bulb. Truly customized for HPD. Very interesting. As far as domes, blue is very difficult to find. Let me see what I can find from my contacts before you spend the $ it will cost to to mold your own. I have 2 NOS blue on 2 of my display lights. See 100+ BEACONS thread in vintage and collectable section.


Dan

Hey Dan, thanks for the info on the domes... They are hard to find... Here are a few more pics.


After lens cleaning


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Aftermarket modification for HPD cruise light


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The original 1960s version Senior Deputy (not the Model 44) had a flat plate that the lens cage was mounted to. The original Senior had a rubber gasket at the bottom of the dome, like the Deputy, and RB11, and Corporal. instead of the stainless steel retaining band. I wonder if this light is a mixture of the 2 Senior Deputy versions, to allow room for the cruise light.


Dan
 
dmathieu said:
The original 1960s version Senior Deputy (not the Model 44) had a flat plate that the lens cage was mounted to. The original Senior had a rubber gasket at the bottom of the dome, like the Deputy, and RB11, and Corporal. instead of the stainless steel retaining band. I wonder if this light is a mixture of the 2 Senior Deputy versions, to allow room for the cruise light.
Dan

I dont know who did the mods on this unit. It has the standard Model 44 cage (like yours) but mounted to a flat plate as opposed to a raised one. It may have been a after the fact modification by one of the technicians to put a cruise light in...
 
Picture of a HPD subsidized Mercury Grand Marquis with rota-beam on a cheetah strap. Circa 1985.


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Kinda off subject, but i just loaned one of my cheetah straps to the Hawaii Five-O Production... I may not get to be in it, but my cheetah strap will be!
 
Here's a pic of one of the Hawaii Five-0 HPD vehicles... Similar to the real HPD vehicles, but different...


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Real HPD Cruiser


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I actually had a conditional job offer for Honolulu PD. All the vehicles, are actually department owned. What was explained to me by the officers was that after you are on the department for so long, you can opt to go into the vehicle program and pick a vehicle to use from the list. They department (which serves the ENTIRE island of Oahu, pays your extra a month to pay for the vehicle.


You are also responsible for the maintenance, and given extra month for that as well, like oil changes, tires, etc. After the vehicle is paid off, I was told the extra money is just yours to keep, probably changed by now with the economy the way it is, they probably will stop paying for it once it is paid off. I guess the list is approved police type vehicles, from CVPI, Chargers, Trucks, SUVs, and Sports Cars.


If you opt to go into the program, there is stipulations though. Even OFF duty, if you are near a call, you HAVE to respond IF you are in the department vehicle. You can use the vehicle for ANYTHING you want while off duty, going to the beach, store, driving around the island, etc. But you have to respond to anything that occurs if you are in it and near by. So some use the program, but if they are going out with family, they take a different car, as the department doesn't care if you are with the family or not, you drop them off at the store or a safe place and go to the call if you decide to use the department vehicle.


Honolulu PD, is the police department for the City and County of Honolulu, which is the entire island of Oahu, so I am sure that normal residents are used to seeing that their police are in unmarked vehicles, with just a blue light.


They also do not take laterals, anyone that wants to work for them, has to go to their academy, even if they are from another island. I wish I could have afforded to take the final park of the process by going to Hawaii, but at the time my finances wouldn't allow it. Now their entire process has changed.
 
PTRJason said:
If you opt to go into the program, there is stipulations though. Even OFF duty, if you are near a call, you HAVE to respond IF you are in the department vehicle. You can use the vehicle for ANYTHING you want while off duty, going to the beach, store, driving around the island, etc. But you have to respond to anything that occurs if you are in it and near by. So some use the program, but if they are going out with family, they take a different car, as the department doesn't care if you are with the family or not, you drop them off at the store or a safe place and go to the call if you decide to use the department vehicle.

Thats ridiculous. They expect you to respond to calls without your uniform or side arm?
 
arsenal10 said:
Thats ridiculous. They expect you to respond to calls without your uniform or side arm?

Who says they dont carry off-duty?Why not respond plain cloths? Plenty of places have detectives/street crime officers that are in plain cloths and they dont seem to have a problem as long as a badge is displayed.
 
arsenal10 said:
Thats ridiculous. They expect you to respond to calls without your uniform or side arm?

A couple of local PD's have a similar policy, along with the requirement that the officer be armed anytime that they're in the department vehicle, on or off-duty.
 
warubozu47 said:
Hey Dan, I myself am not completely thrilled with the new series. Nothing can beat the original. There are a few minor problems with the show when it comes to local culture and stuff... Also, some inconsistencies with them filming two different CVPI's being represented as the same vehicle etc. We'll see what happens!

Jeff

Actually, to be accurate, that episode was NOT filmed with two different style CVPIs... First was a '95-'97 CVPI in some shots and then what appeared to be a '98-'02 Mercury Grand Marquis in other shots as could be evidenced by the rear panel/taillight design (with the trademark Grand Marquis "filler" panels between the taillights and license plate recess).


Also, the Impala's used in the series are civilian versions and not 9C1 police-packages. They have the standard civilian 5-spoke alloy wheels while 9C1's have 16" black steel wheels with bolt-on center hubcaps. This is clearly evidenced in the photos provided by warubozu47 showing one of the filming cars compared to a real HPD CVPI.
 
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PTRJason said:
I guess the list is approved police type vehicles, from CVPI, Chargers, Trucks, SUVs, and Sports Cars.

I think the car list is pretty much anything. I have seen everything from Toyota 4Runners to Lexus Sedans, as well as the popular Saleen or Mach 1 Mustangs... I am also officers do not deck those cars out with more lighting like deck or grille lights.
 
Keeping this thread alive, I recently watched an episode from season 10 of Five-0. It had a couple of clear views of a Rota-beam on a car Jack Lord was driving at the time, so I screen captured them for reference. Probably a studio car, but the light and mount are correct and circa 1977.

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This was a Rota-Beam Model 44 Senior Deputy, or a Model 22 Senior with a quick disconnect mount, mounted to a light bar.


This light was also altered to add a cruise light inside the top of the dome.


This is also a good example of a darker blue Whelen dome.
 
Hey there, just wanted to clarify some stuff in reference to your post; please dont take offense.


HPD does have a fleet of CVPIs, hybrid Toyota Camrys and now Ford Fusions. However, all other vehicles that you see on the road with the small round 800/1200 series beacons or mini liberty bars are owned by the officers themselves. There is a "vehicle use policy" that is amended every year to reflect the new "authorized" vehicles that officers can purchase to use while they are working. One of the minimum criteria is that the wheelbase needs to be a minimum of so many inches.(Sorry dont have the policy in front of me). The vehicles are inspected prior to service and may serve for up to 10 years from the manufature date. Previous to the mid 90's only american made cars/suvs were allowed; however now, you'll see toyotas, nissans, infinitis and other import vehicles on the approved list.


To be able to use your own vehicle, you need to be promoted to motorman, nowdays that takes a while, maybe upwards of 5 to 10 years. The officer does receive a subsidized vehicle allowance check monthly to cover maintenance and what not and fuel is provided at the garage.


There is however a take home program for some of the HPD owned vehicles including the newer slicktop CVPIs.


Cheers!

PTRJason said:
I actually had a conditional job offer for Honolulu PD. All the vehicles, are actually department owned. What was explained to me by the officers was that after you are on the department for so long, you can opt to go into the vehicle program and pick a vehicle to use from the list. They department (which serves the ENTIRE island of Oahu, pays your extra a month to pay for the vehicle.

You are also responsible for the maintenance, and given extra month for that as well, like oil changes, tires, etc. After the vehicle is paid off, I was told the extra money is just yours to keep, probably changed by now with the economy the way it is, they probably will stop paying for it once it is paid off. I guess the list is approved police type vehicles, from CVPI, Chargers, Trucks, SUVs, and Sports Cars.


If you opt to go into the program, there is stipulations though. Even OFF duty, if you are near a call, you HAVE to respond IF you are in the department vehicle. You can use the vehicle for ANYTHING you want while off duty, going to the beach, store, driving around the island, etc. But you have to respond to anything that occurs if you are in it and near by. So some use the program, but if they are going out with family, they take a different car, as the department doesn't care if you are with the family or not, you drop them off at the store or a safe place and go to the call if you decide to use the department vehicle.


Honolulu PD, is the police department for the City and County of Honolulu, which is the entire island of Oahu, so I am sure that normal residents are used to seeing that their police are in unmarked vehicles, with just a blue light.


They also do not take laterals, anyone that wants to work for them, has to go to their academy, even if they are from another island. I wish I could have afforded to take the final park of the process by going to Hawaii, but at the time my finances wouldn't allow it. Now their entire process has changed.
 
Interesting news piece that came out recently.


HPD improves vehicle safety, visibility | Local News - KITV Home


As a result of this being aired, PD has decided that only department installed blue lights (dome, mini liberty, flatlighter talon/avenger) are authorized, and thus all other blue colored lighting currently intalled in officers' vehicles must be removed by 1 April 2012. Oddly enough, the existing policy hasnt been amended in a a long time, since the only other auxilliary lighting allowed are the Unitrol Quadra-Speed or Sho-Me flashing systems.
 
What would be the advantage to supplying the vehicle versus driving one the department owns? Seems to me that the costs of buying a vehicle, paying to have it shipped to the island, and then paying for higher than normal maintenance and fuel/oil charges would outweigh just driving a departmental vehicle.
 
Seems pretty lame that their PD is forcing them to remove extra lighting when they won't provide them with enough warning in the first place. If they want to pay for extra lights they should be allowed to do so.
 
coopers said:
Seems pretty lame that their PD is forcing them to remove extra lighting when they won't provide them with enough warning in the first place. If they want to pay for extra lights they should be allowed to do so.

As long as it's run in addition to the dept stuff, it shouldn't make it worse.....
 
arsenal10 said:
Thats ridiculous. They expect you to respond to calls without your uniform or side arm?

The depart here that has take-home cars allows the officer to use the car for personnel buisness, but if he does so he must be in a class C uniforms, Polo Shirts, BDUs ect and carry his sidearm. He also must repond to calls if he is local to the incident.
 
Bullets said:
The depart here that has take-home cars allows the officer to use the car for personnel buisness, but if he does so he must be in a class C uniforms, Polo Shirts, BDUs ect and carry his sidearm. He also must repond to calls if he is local to the incident.

Screw that. In my car 40 hours a week as it is. The moment its parked in the driveway for days off, it doesn't leave until the next work week.
 

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