PursuitElectronics said:
Wire color consistency is a must! I haven't built a harness jig yet, but as soon as I have more space it will get done. Thanks for the praise.
Installers... What technique do you use?
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Wire color consistency is a must! I haven't built a harness jig yet, but as soon as I have more space it will get done. Thanks for the praise.
PursuitElectronics said:
Can we see pictures of the harness jig?
Do you use the same jig for every install or do you have different ones for different types of vehicles (cars, trucks, SUVs)?
WNYEVS said:
I would also like to see the jig.
The ones I've seen in past were plywood with screws to route around and the screw placement for routing varied per vehicle.
where are you guys buing your terminals? I bought some at autozone and they are crap!!
Learning a lot watching some of these...I'd be embarresed to show my "work"...but at least all my stuff is fused!!!
Learning a lot watching some of these...I'd be embarresed to show my "work"...but at least all my stuff is fused!!!
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Waytek, Del City, Terminal Supply Company just to name a few.
I use Waytek for most supplies. Make sure to use NYLON insulated connectors like these:
http://order.waytekwire.com/products2/M50/320/200/400/1/Butt%20Connector%20Insulated%20Nylon/Butt%20Connectors/Terminals%20And%20Connectors/
http://order.waytekwire.com/productdetail2/M50/30713/FEMALE%20PUSH%20ON%20.250%20TAB%20RED/
On the second link notice the extra sleeve that allows the connector to be crimped to the insulation as well as the stripped wire.
You're right, the connectors at most retail shops are junk. Regarding your installs, at least you know you have some learning to do. We all started somewhere and continuing to be critical of ones self yields more learning and a better product.
I use Waytek for most supplies. Make sure to use NYLON insulated connectors like these:
http://order.waytekwire.com/products2/M50/320/200/400/1/Butt%20Connector%20Insulated%20Nylon/Butt%20Connectors/Terminals%20And%20Connectors/
http://order.waytekwire.com/productdetail2/M50/30713/FEMALE%20PUSH%20ON%20.250%20TAB%20RED/
On the second link notice the extra sleeve that allows the connector to be crimped to the insulation as well as the stripped wire.
You're right, the connectors at most retail shops are junk. Regarding your installs, at least you know you have some learning to do. We all started somewhere and continuing to be critical of ones self yields more learning and a better product.
Heres a question
Everyone is saying to measure your load..how exactly are you doing that? like if i have a strobe box with a 20 amp fuse and it says to use a 16 AWG wire..does that mean my fuse box needs to be 20amp but with a 14awg wire? im sorry...im new to this and want to learn as much as i can so i do not make a mistake or put my life or anyone elses in danger.
Everyone is saying to measure your load..how exactly are you doing that? like if i have a strobe box with a 20 amp fuse and it says to use a 16 AWG wire..does that mean my fuse box needs to be 20amp but with a 14awg wire? im sorry...im new to this and want to learn as much as i can so i do not make a mistake or put my life or anyone elses in danger.
Fuses 101:
Fuses are mainly to protect the circuit (wiring) not the load (component).
Fusing should be done at 1.25x (some installers go higher, at 1.5x. Either way, always round-up) required amperage...example: load requires 10 amps, 10x1.25=12.5, go with 15a fuse.
Fuse should be as close as possible to power source (within inches).
As fusing is to protect wire, ensure wire is rated for 135% of fuse rating.
Use 80% of fuse rating to determine max steady state load to reduce nuiscance failures...example, 100amp fuse-protected circuit in trunk of Ford CVPI should be used power no more than 80amps.
Buy fuses in bulk at a great price from WayTek Wire.
Never replace properly-sized blown fuse with higher rater fuse.
If you smell electrical/wiring heating up or smoking, you're doing it wrong.
Circuit breakers and fuses are not the same thing, are not completely interchangeable, and serve similar but different purposes. While breakers have their uses in warning system wiring, primarily as a power distribution method, they should not be used as sole source of circuit protection. Manual reset/trip breakers are, IMO, the only variety to consider.
Fuses are mainly to protect the circuit (wiring) not the load (component).
Fusing should be done at 1.25x (some installers go higher, at 1.5x. Either way, always round-up) required amperage...example: load requires 10 amps, 10x1.25=12.5, go with 15a fuse.
Fuse should be as close as possible to power source (within inches).
As fusing is to protect wire, ensure wire is rated for 135% of fuse rating.
Use 80% of fuse rating to determine max steady state load to reduce nuiscance failures...example, 100amp fuse-protected circuit in trunk of Ford CVPI should be used power no more than 80amps.
Buy fuses in bulk at a great price from WayTek Wire.
Never replace properly-sized blown fuse with higher rater fuse.
If you smell electrical/wiring heating up or smoking, you're doing it wrong.
Circuit breakers and fuses are not the same thing, are not completely interchangeable, and serve similar but different purposes. While breakers have their uses in warning system wiring, primarily as a power distribution method, they should not be used as sole source of circuit protection. Manual reset/trip breakers are, IMO, the only variety to consider.
Appreciate the information very much..And C2Installs, how about some more pics? i think everyones looking forward to see more installation pictures
Any pictures of schematics you guys might have drawn up or pics from inside the engine compartment for what you did there?
Do you need a power distribution center like the ones pictured if your running everything to some thing like a smart siren that has fuses already inside of it?
code4services.com said:
My guess is that the jig is just a piece of plywood with nails to wrap the wire around and route them to the correct locations. If you do enough of the same vehicles they come in really handy.
Something like this.
http://pinballproject.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/2011expo3.jpg?w=640&h=480
Something like this.
http://pinballproject.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/2011expo3.jpg?w=640&h=480
iceman4122 said:
The difference between a power distribution center and the Smart Siren that has fuses, one supplies power, the other supplies outputs to the lights with the controller.