LED Equipped (LEDQUSA)

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Zapp Brannigan said:
1) Red
2) White


3) Blue


4) Amber


5) R/R


6) B/B


7) W/W


8) A/A


9) R/W


10) R/B


11) R/A


12) B/A


13) B/W


14) A/W


I fail to see 150 different styles listed here with the basic color combinations (some special combos included). :weird: :weird:


This is a simple list for things such as dash lights, and warning bars (not full light bars). But even then, light bars in the basic colors, R/B, R/W, combinations of such....


Also, are your bars modular and can change colors as needs change, or you need to buy a whole new full sized light bar if your color needs change??
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I just made a huge investment into something similar so I can assure you...... it's not just that easy. You also have color layout on bars. Some bars have multiple features. Some lights can have up to 6 different types of optics....... it is very hard and costly to buy everything needed. This guy has 100 plus different types of products. He's obviously not LEDO rich. Even LEDO with all of their funds doesn't have everything they need in stock.


I can assure you Star/SVP, SOS, Code3 also sometimes don't have their equipment in stock for weeks. just like Dave said.
 
FEVER said:
I just made a huge investment into something similar so I can assure you...... it's not just that easy. You also have color layout on bars. Some bars have multiple features. Some lights can have up to 6 different types of optics....... it is very hard and costly to buy everything needed. This guy has 100 plus different types of products. He's obviously not LEDO rich. Even LEDO with all of their funds doesn't have everything they need in stock.

I can assure you Star/SVP, SOS, Code3 also sometimes don't have their equipment in stock for weeks. just like Dave said.
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I didn't find the lack of stock to be a huge or alarming issue here either. Well put fever.
 
JohnMarcson said:
Perhaps a bacon company?
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My bad, I was thinking about a late night snack when I was typing that.


Now, that being said, the original intention of my post was to show that I am a relatively independent party and I'm willing to purchase one of your products and give it a fair test. My quesiton for you is, which of your products in your oppinion is closest in performance and style to a Whelen single Avenger?
 
EMT-BLS said:
Geez, I look away for two minutes, and the admin staff get into the crack.
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Well, in all fairness, you're the one who left the rocks laying out on the table in the staff lounge after that bacon and boobs party last night.
 
foxtrot5 said:
My bad, I was thinking about a late night snack when I was typing that.


Now, that being said, the original intention of my post was to show that I am a relatively independent party and I'm willing to purchase one of your products and give it a fair test. My quesiton for you is, which of your products in your oppinion is closest in performance and style to a Whelen single Avenger?
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Hi I hope you are doing great


I am currently working on a model for that. But to picture it, it is my A-1073 as a single
 
FEVER said:
I just made a huge investment into something similar so I can assure you...... it's not just that easy. You also have color layout on bars. Some bars have multiple features. Some lights can have up to 6 different types of optics....... it is very hard and costly to buy everything needed. This guy has 100 plus different types of products. He's obviously not LEDO rich. Even LEDO with all of their funds doesn't have everything they need in stock.

I can assure you Star/SVP, SOS, Code3 also sometimes don't have their equipment in stock for weeks. just like Dave said.
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JohnMarcson said:
I didn't find the lack of stock to be a huge or alarming issue here either. Well put fever.
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Thank you both for understanding where I am coming from. If if you had only 15 color combos but they to mix them is infinite. For example, red and white can be rrrwww or rwrwrw etc
 
Ledequipped said:
HI

I have plenty of samples which I can ship immediately.


It is impossible to keep every style in every color combination in stock. It is a waste of money and time. Every customer likes to customize their merchandise and I understand that and let them do as they wish, but you can not assume that I will have it on hand. Who would ever stock 150 styles in 50 different color combinations?


I respect your thoughts
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Not bashing, but if you have been in business for as long as you say you have, then you should have some record of what model/color combinations are popular. anything Red/White is not uncommon and in my estimation should not be that hard to keep in stock. As for your comment above about who keeps 150 different styles in 50 color combinations? I try to keep at least one of the odd style/color combinations in stock and several of the standard colored styles in stock at all times. Does eat up space and maybe sit on the shelf for a while? Yes, it does, but most times when someone wants a light, they want it now, maybe they will wait a week to get it, but a month? Maybe for a light bar, but not for a dash light, deck light, grill light, etc.


Also, while looking at your site, you have "Chameleon" lights. I believe the name Chameleon for dual color lights is trademarked by Juluen and you may want to just refer to them as dual color.


And to add to John and Fever, no, I do not keep every style/color combination for light bars, traffic advisors, etc. But like I said above, for the basics, I try.
 
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Ledequipped said:
Hi

I appreciate your feedback however I can only supply certain styles as samples. I cannot stock every style even if it is in the most common color since I would need to keep 10 in stock just in case more than one person asks for samples. I have created a stock list of about 20 styles which contain a part of each category which I always keep multiples in stock so that I can ship as samples at anytime. This is what made sense to me and has worked until now.
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So what is the difference between a sample order and a regular order.


In my case, if someone asks for a sample, I send it to them on a 60 or 90 day invoice and if they like it, they keep it, if not, they send it back.


So you charge for samples?
 
FreshDave04 said:
To be fair, I have seen from first hand experience 6-8 week lead times from the likes of Whelen, Federal Signal, TOMAR and Feniex. Long shipping delays are not exclusive to Chinese imports.
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FEVER said:
I just made a huge investment into something similar so I can assure you...... it's not just that easy. You also have color layout on bars. Some bars have multiple features. Some lights can have up to 6 different types of optics....... it is very hard and costly to buy everything needed. This guy has 100 plus different types of products. He's obviously not LEDO rich. Even LEDO with all of their funds doesn't have everything they need in stock.

I can assure you Star/SVP, SOS, Code3 also sometimes don't have their equipment in stock for weeks. just like Dave said.
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JohnMarcson said:
I didn't find the lack of stock to be a huge or alarming issue here either. Well put fever.
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To be totally honest, I have been waiting for almost two months now on whelen for several lights for an apparatus that is being upgraded, good thing is my customer is very understanding which I am losing patients myself and so is my contact. My Whelen hook up does not stock them due to not having high enough demand for the type of lights I ordered. I can understand that completely.
 
SlickTop Solutions said:
So what is the difference between a sample order and a regular order.

In my case, if someone asks for a sample, I send it to them on a 60 or 90 day invoice and if they like it, they keep it, if not, they send it back.


So you charge for samples?
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HI Dan,


I do not charge for samples, I even let them keep it if they place an order.
 
SlickTop Solutions said:
Not bashing, but if you have been in business for as long as you say you have, then you should have some record of what model/color combinations are popular. anything Red/White is not uncommon and in my estimation should not be that hard to keep in stock. As for your comment above about who keeps 150 different styles in 50 color combinations? I try to keep at least one of the odd style/color combinations in stock and several of the standard colored styles in stock at all times. Does eat up space and maybe sit on the shelf for a while? Yes, it does, but most times when someone wants a light, they want it now, maybe they will wait a week to get it, but a month? Maybe for a light bar, but not for a dash light, deck light, grill light, etc.

Also, while looking at your site, you have "Chameleon" lights. I believe the name Chameleon for dual color lights is trademarked by Juluen and you may want to just refer to them as dual color.


And to add to John and Fever, no, I do not keep every style/color combination for light bars, traffic advisors, etc. But like I said above, for the basics, I try.
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Thank you for your thoughts Dan,


I enjoy the tips, i have gone and removed "Chameleon".


Additionally, i am already working a sample shelf stock to be kept at all times
 
So, I'm finding your website very difficult to navigate and I can't even manage to get to a product listing. Granted, part of that may be on my end as the work computers I have SUCK. I'd be interested in ordering one RED single dash light from you to compare to a Whelen single Avenger. If I can get my hands on a single viper, and other similar products I'll also compare those. Please let me know!
 
foxtrot5 said:
So, I'm finding your website very difficult to navigate and I can't even manage to get to a product listing. Granted, part of that may be on my end as the work computers I have SUCK. I'd be interested in ordering one RED single dash light from you to compare to a Whelen single Avenger. If I can get my hands on a single viper, and other similar products I'll also compare those. Please let me know!
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HI


My website was made to be easily navigated and I am sorry you are having trouble.


What styles are you interested in.


I currently working a model for the A-1073 to be in a single version like you are requesting.


Is there anything you need?
 
I would like for you to recommend to me a dash light that you believe is equivalent to a Whelen single Avenger. I would like for you to post photos of said dash light and give me public pricing on purchasing one (1) of these lights.
 
foxtrot5 said:
I would like for you to recommend to me a dash light that you believe is equivalent to a Whelen single Avenger. I would like for you to post photos of said dash light and give me public pricing on purchasing one (1) of these lights.
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Will do so once I am finished modeling it
 
Here are the unpacking pics from what I was sent by LEDQ. I'm not done with fully evaluating them so I won't weigh in until I have a review to post.


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JohnMarcson said:
Here are the unpacking pics from what I was sent by LEDQ. I'm not done with fully evaluating them so I won't weigh in until I have a review to post.
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Thanks John for taking your time to review my products!!
 
Coruscate? No thanks.


This thread is a drama train wreck.


I don't understand the appeal of the products. Customers who only want low priced knockoff products are not the customers I want to have. They will take their business elsewhere at the drop of a coin and I don't want to compete for pennies.


Just my opinion. I prefer the established manufacturers based on experience with the Chinese alternatives I've seen.
 
I've been following this thread for sometime now and one thing seems to be a reacuring theme from you.


Everythime somebody asks for something you say you have to build it or model it.


Don't you have anything in stock besides the stuff you sent John to evaluate?
 
C2Installs said:
Coruscate? No thanks.

This thread is a drama train wreck.


I don't understand the appeal of the products. Customers who only want low priced knockoff products are not the customers I want to have. They will take their business elsewhere at the drop of a coin and I don't want to compete for pennies.


Just my opinion. I prefer the established manufacturers based on experience with the Chinese alternatives I've seen.
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HI


I thank you for your thoughts, however I am committed to my product and business.


If you would like to put you previous experiences with similar products and give me the chance to prove myself I would be glad to do so.
 
chief1565 said:
I've been following this thread for sometime now and one thing seems to be a reacuring theme from you.
Everythime somebody asks for something you say you have to build it or model it.


Don't you have anything in stock besides the stuff you sent John to evaluate?
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Hi Yes i do.


By the way I had to get new modules because a few styles were causing issues.


If you like i can send you my full sample list which are available to ship.


Lastly, I am devolving and shelf stock, where I can stock my best sellers so that i can ship at anytime.
 
C2Installs said:
I don't understand the appeal of the products. Customers who only want low priced knockoff products are not the customers I want to have. They will take their business elsewhere at the drop of a coin and I don't want to compete for pennies.
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In my mind the problem is having lots of first responders rolling around town code three with sub-par warning devices. It is a matter of life and death - these "businessmen" (LEDQ, Jaggedempire and the like) just do not get that. There isn't enough liability insurance out there to cover up selling non-certified safety equipment when people get injured or even die.


We risk our lives everyday. I'm not going to rely on cheap lighting during what is statistically the most dangerous thing we fire, EMS, and LEO's do - driving code. It is so plain and simple. (Probably NOT) End of discussion...
 
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Ledequipped said:
Hi Yes i do.

By the way I had to get new modules because a few styles were causing issues.


If you like i can send you my full sample list which are available to ship.


Lastly, I am devolving and shelf stock, where I can stock my best sellers so that i can ship at anytime.
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Please do not look at my question as rude/racist, however what is your native language? It appears you are using a translator and it doesn't seem to be helping your cause.


"I am devolving and shelf stock". I am having a very hard time trying to figure out the meaning of this sentence.


John
 
FreshDave04 said:
What is "coruscate"? I have never heard that word (if it is a word) in my life.
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I'll have to ask Feniex if they will have a legend for the 4200 that reads "Coruscate" so I can make my lights sparkle.
 
litning said:
Please do not look at my question as rude/racist, however what is your native language? It appears you are using a translator and it doesn't seem to be helping your cause.

"I am devolving and shelf stock". I am having a very hard time trying to figure out the meaning of this sentence.


John
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:)Sorry John,


I was using my phone. :)


I meant that I producing shelf stock so that I can keep a minimum qty of my best sellers at all times
 
Firetrux said:
In my mind the problem is having lots of first responders rolling around town code three with sub-par warning devices. It is a matter of life and death and these "businessmen" (LEDQ and Jaggedempire and the like) just do not get that. There isn't enough liability insurance out there to cover up selling non-certified safety equipment when people die.

We risk our lives everyday. I'm not going to rely on cheap lighting during what is statistically the most dangerous thing we fire, EMS, and LEO's do - driving code. It is so plain and simple. (Probably NOT) End of discussion...
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HI


Can you explain what risk you are talking about?


These do not blow up or anything. They also run smoothly, I am not sure where you are coming from
 
litning said:
coruscate means to flash/blink/sparkle (only Doug Sparkles though)
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I thought that was GPC :D
 
Ledequipped said:
Can you explain what risk you are talking about?
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Very simple. If a public safety vehicle is responding to an emergency code 3 it is "best practice" to utilize certified emergency lighting/sirens. If an accident involves said public safety vehicle, the first thing that will be examined is the performance, certification, quality and activation of said emergency lighting/sirens. If they do not meet "standard" minimum certifications for that public safety vehicle they are deemed liable for at least a part of the accident even if there were no fault as to the actual crash.


Example: a volunteer purchases your equipment (not meeting minimum standards such as DOT, SAE, or NFPA) he responds to his firehouse and on his way there slams into a car at an intersection. The other driver is at fault and charged with failure to yield to an emergency vehicle. However the volunteer, his department, the equipment seller and manufacturer are all sued in civil court because the "emergency equipment" did not meet the standards that are know to be common practice in the first response world.


You are basically selling "show lights" not honest to goodness emergency response lighting. I would perhaps check with an attorney who's opinion you value.
 
Coruscate is a medical term for when visual disturbances take on a flashing characteristic. It's clearly a bad translation and it indicates the flash feature for the takedowns and alleys. I'm sorry to say the controller is proprietary and required. A bad translation on a proprietary control head is a total deal breaker for the majority of people here. My overall characterization of these lights is ebay or similar to speedtech. Unfortunately, these aren't the type of lights that are going to be extremely popular here....eLightbars members tend to demand SAE certification and a certain level of performance and quality. I am not going to be able to devote much time to these lights as they will not meet the requirements of our users. I appreciate the cooperation of the Manufacturer and Dealer here, but these just aren't up to on road warning standards for the US.


As far as replies to this thread.... please explain yourself politely and completely. This is a good chance to give direct feedback.


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Ledequipped said:
HI

Can you explain what risk you are talking about?


These do not blow up or anything. They also run smoothly, I am not sure where you are coming from
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Ever heard that phrase "If I had to explain, you wouldn't understand" ? Pretty sure it's apt here
 
LEDEquipped - where are you from? By your responses, I can only assume English is not your native language. That's not a big deal, just trying to assertain how/where you came into offering these products.
 
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