Zapp Brannigan
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HILO said:
9005 LED headlights
Lifetime's page also say (the one I linked) they are "DOT certified".
Lifetime LED Lights Headlight Replacement Bulbs
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9005 LED headlights
Lifetime's page also say (the one I linked) they are "DOT certified".
MAPMFF86
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Woah, pretty cool idea. I've got a pair of Sylvania Silverstar ultras in my Silverado now, have been using the Silverstar line for a while now and really like them, that said certainly interested to see some members here get these installed and see how they work out, as regular lights as well as with a HLF....hmm maybe a Christmas present for myself if these things really turn out to be as good as they seem to be!
WireKing
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I have to agree with a few others here on this post that if you put a completely different aftermarket technology light source in place of an OEM bulb then you are going to have issues since the OEM reflector was not designed for the new light dispersal pattern the new light source creates. Take a look at the old Acura RL or the 1st gen Toyota Prius with the rare reflector-style HIDs and you will notice baffles to block the light from the lower half of the reflector as well as tighter reflector ribs to concentrate the beam.
I highly doubt these bulbs could ever receive proper SAE certifications unless they were sold with matching reflector buckets or full headlamps that allowed them to function properly when installed and operated as a matched set.
Not not trying to be Debbie Downer here but I'm tired of getting blinded by idiots putting illegal PnP HIDs in their OEM headlights and blinding the crap out of me. While I fully support the wave of the future with LEDs being used in increasingly more applications, I don't support cheating the system by playing "dumb" and running around saying "oh I didn't know that was blinding you. "
I highly doubt these bulbs could ever receive proper SAE certifications unless they were sold with matching reflector buckets or full headlamps that allowed them to function properly when installed and operated as a matched set.
Not not trying to be Debbie Downer here but I'm tired of getting blinded by idiots putting illegal PnP HIDs in their OEM headlights and blinding the crap out of me. While I fully support the wave of the future with LEDs being used in increasingly more applications, I don't support cheating the system by playing "dumb" and running around saying "oh I didn't know that was blinding you. "
Zapp Brannigan
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WireKing said:I have to agree with a few others here on this post that if you put a completely different aftermarket technology light source in place of an OEM bulb then you are going to have issues since the OEM reflector was not designed for the new light dispersal pattern the new light source creates. Take a look at the old Acura RL or the 1st gen Toyota Prius with the rare reflector-style HIDs and you will notice baffles to block the light from the lower half of the reflector as well as tighter reflector ribs to concentrate the beam.
I highly doubt these bulbs could ever receive proper SAE certifications unless they were sold with matching reflector buckets or full headlamps that allowed them to function properly when installed and operated as a matched set.
Not not trying to be Debbie Downer here but I'm tired of getting blinded by idiots putting illegal PnP HIDs in their OEM headlights and blinding the crap out of me. While I fully support the wave of the future with LEDs being used in increasingly more applications, I don't support cheating the system by playing "dumb" and running around saying "oh I didn't know that was blinding you. "
I really wish it were possible to test something out before having to purchase. I wouldn't buy a car without research and a test drive, why are we forced into buying other major products without testing them?
Kd8bao
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The main reason the aftermarket HID Bulbs don't work is because the focal point is different from that of a halogen bulb. These l look too have a short focal point like a halogen. Mine are on the way. They should be here in a few days and I well post some comparisons of halogen to LED outside light and inside light and hopefully output and beam pattern.
From the pictures MEVS posted it looks like the output beam is lower than his oem headlights, so I doubt these will be blinding like HIDs.
calebsheltonmed23
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MEVS06 said:
Seem to work quite well! Like it's daylight almost!
On a serious note though, they do look good. I'm a fan of DRL's and was afraid it wouldn't have good output for it, but it is decent. Looking forward to some more pics!
calebsheltonmed23 said:
My Mini Cooper uses the high beam as a DRL at like 40% output or something like that. I can't wait to see how that works.
razr777 said:
Yes they are DOT approved, there is no video yet due to these just being released.
I just got my set today. They are very nice! I need to tweak my headlights alittle but overall nice output and not blinding like HID. I can post some pics tomorrow
What vehicle do you have, what bulb type did you get and what did you have before? How do they compare?
bobbyj said:
I have an 04 mitsubishi outlander with H4/9003 bulbs. I had regular basic halogen bulbs nothing fancy. Like I said without the adjustment they are pretty good! The low beams are really bright and the high beams are nice as well. They have a pretty tight beam, so that's the biggest reason I need to adjust them. The build quality is very nice as well.
Station 3
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SireLite
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Alright got some pics! In the last two the tent is about 60ft away with no adjustment to the headlights. Phone camera so not the greatest quality.
Station 3 said:
I want some for my 2011 F-150. How does the hi/lo work on the H13s? Is it just different brightness level, or do they actually tip up/down like the HIDs?
Any idea how these would work on an HLF?
Question: Does the LED fill the headlights.
Answer: Depends on the light bulb. The single beam do, the dual beam use a LED on top for low beam, LED on the bottom for high beam. They both run in high beam mode.
Answer: Depends on the light bulb. The single beam do, the dual beam use a LED on top for low beam, LED on the bottom for high beam. They both run in high beam mode.
bobbyj said:
I imagine they are all the same but with the h4 the top led is for the low beam and then hi is top and bottom. I don't have a hlf so I'm not sure but they react pretty quick with turning them on/off so I don't see why not.
WireKing
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Kd8bao
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Just had a set come in and when i bench tested them this is how they worked.
Low beam - Fan on
High Beam - Fan on
No change in speed that I could tell. So with that being said as long as low beams are on ( dual power models ) you shouldnt be pulsing the fan. I will play more tomorrow ( later today )
Low beam - Fan on
High Beam - Fan on
No change in speed that I could tell. So with that being said as long as low beams are on ( dual power models ) you shouldnt be pulsing the fan. I will play more tomorrow ( later today )
Zapp Brannigan
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WireKing said:
I had wondered the same thing.
Kd8bao said:
Anyone know if the fans are set to a thermal regulator, if they only come on when the lights reach a certain temperature, or if they are on anytime the lights are on?
Kd8bao
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Here are some videos and pics of the lights.
Wig Wag 1
And some pics of the lights
Installed
Low Beam
High Beam LED vs Halogen
Low Beam LED vs Halogen
Lifetime LED Low
Halogen Low
LED Driver with Adapter
Rubber Boot Installed
Rubber Boot Installed
Mounting Ring Off ( Some Rings will detach. They are a twist lock set up )
High Beam Focal Point
Low Beam Focal Point
Tonight I will get some night shots also. The Fan turns on when power is applied. Very easy and straight forward to install.
Wig Wag 1
And some pics of the lights
Installed
Low Beam
High Beam LED vs Halogen
Low Beam LED vs Halogen
Lifetime LED Low
Halogen Low
LED Driver with Adapter
Rubber Boot Installed
Rubber Boot Installed
Mounting Ring Off ( Some Rings will detach. They are a twist lock set up )
High Beam Focal Point
Low Beam Focal Point
Tonight I will get some night shots also. The Fan turns on when power is applied. Very easy and straight forward to install.
AllStrobedUp
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MEVS06 said:
The fog lights on F150s are H10. I too would love H10 so I can get rid of all my HIDs.
MEVS, what is your opinion on wig wags with the fans? Is it safe to do so?
Kd8, great post. Thanks for the pics! What HLF did you use? I've got a set of LED off-road lights hooked up to my BL2150 currently that I had to put load resisitors on to get it to work right. Would like to have to not do that to use these new H13s.
Thanks,
Brandt
bobbyj said:
Whelen 2150 HLF don't work with LED Off Road lights. I have a SOS flasher on mine and tried a Whelen HLF before I got the SOS. Give it a little time on the H10. We now offer H11 and H11 Fog light bulbs. New bulbs will be available soon.
PS:
I will be torture testing a set on a HLF for the next 3 months straight with no off time to see if they will work well or not. I have been called a crazy SOB when I do my testing. Lol
Kd8bao
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AllStrobedUp
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Carlos SpicyWeiner
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I think I'm sold now... MEVS i might get a couple sets from ya soon. Got alot of local people interested as well.
Kd8bao
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FireMedic19
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Kd8bao said:
Your videos and pictures are making me want a set of these really bad. Cant wait for the dark video.
Kd8bao
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5309
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What are the rubber pieces used for? Are they part of your truck or did they come with the lights?
Kd8bao
Member
5309 said:
Those are factory rubber boots that allow the aiming of the inside reflector. since its a double wall light
Zapp Brannigan
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bobbyj said:
I trust a lot of people on this site, and their word as well. That being said, its not a matter of not taking one's word, but I would really like to see Lifetime LED's statement regarding this issue. Would hooking up one of these to a flasher void a warranty, or, God forbid something happens, would they still warranty it?
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