MARS Skybolt

ostat

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Jul 21, 2010
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North Carolina
I found some New in the Box MARS Skybolt (US Army) lights with new blue domes. Are these fairly old and if so what do you think they are worth?
 
Jul 14, 2010
1,639
S.W. Ohio USA
12 volt helps a lot. I've seen them new for $50 to $75. Grey base is probably late 80's or early to mid 90's. Got pics? Are the domes smooth inside or do you see ridges? What is the diameter?
 

MIKET2

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May 24, 2010
247
Houston Tx.
I got the exact one you have for $100.00 from Ford Dealer long ago. Trilite still manufactures the same model


except its not the US Army kind, its got a chrome plated short base regular.
 

JohnMarcson

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May 7, 2010
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Northwest Ohio
I bought one from "coleman surplus" store like 5 years ago for $30... shoulda bought more. They go from $50 to 100
 

JohnMarcson

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dmathieu said:
Guess that settles the worth!
Dan
Nice... I can't believe they still have some.
 

cmb56

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May 22, 2010
746
Norrköping, Sweden
Are they 10" in diameter or 8"?


If it is 10", it was made about 1986 for the US Army.


The colour of the base of the standard version do not indicate the age. The standard colour was gray, yellow, white, red and silver but chrome coloured base was a higher price.


The contemporary version has black as standard colour.


The hight of the base is a better indicator to the age.
 

kadetklapp

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May 21, 2010
1,568
Indiana
Old thread. I just bought one of these from Coleman's after they got marked down again. Basically I paid for the 2 4416 bulbs inside it and got a new rotating assembly/base/dome for the $18 it costs to ship it!
 

Hoser

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Jun 25, 2010
3,704
Ohio
Cant say much about that one, but I ordered two Mars Skybolts off ebay. Cheap enough but the quality sucks. Both arrived well packed but in pieces,the bulbs came loose inside the domes and beat them up in shipping. Sent them back to the seller. One bulb holder was made of wire, and the other a elastic type band. Sure seems to me that the heat of the bulb would surely melt that elastic retaining band. After reassembling them I put power to them and put the domes on and the Twist lock retaining ring on and turned it to lock it. The light quit turning at that point on both of them. Sent a letter to Tri lite about the quality of their product. The president sent me an email wanting the lights sent to them, however I had already sent them to the seller.
 

kadetklapp

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May 21, 2010
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Indiana
Hoser said:
Cant say much about that one, but I ordered two Mars Skybolts off ebay. Cheap enough but the quality sucks. Both arrived well packed but in pieces,the bulbs came loose inside the domes and beat them up in shipping. Sent them back to the seller. One bulb holder was made of wire, and the other a elastic type band. Sure seems to me that the heat of the bulb would surely melt that elastic retaining band. After reassembling them I put power to them and put the domes on and the Twist lock retaining ring on and turned it to lock it. The light quit turning at that point on both of them. Sent a letter to Tri lite about the quality of their product. The president sent me an email wanting the lights sent to them, however I had already sent them to the seller.

Were they these?


mars,skybolt beacon rotation warning light | eBay


The one from Coleman's isn't really a Skybolt is it? The base and dome are completely different...
 

50theman

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Feb 1, 2011
603
Virginia
Hoser said:
Cant say much about that one, but I ordered two Mars Skybolts off ebay. Cheap enough but the quality sucks. Both arrived well packed but in pieces,the bulbs came loose inside the domes and beat them up in shipping. Sent them back to the seller. One bulb holder was made of wire, and the other a elastic type band. Sure seems to me that the heat of the bulb would surely melt that elastic retaining band. After reassembling them I put power to them and put the domes on and the Twist lock retaining ring on and turned it to lock it. The light quit turning at that point on both of them. Sent a letter to Tri lite about the quality of their product. The president sent me an email wanting the lights sent to them, however I had already sent them to the seller.

I bought one of those and it was packed well. When I got it one of the bulbs fell out, It also was blown and yes it had the two elastic retention bands. It also makes a very loud grinding sound when it runs. I was very disappointed, I have always been a fan of Mars and loved there products. :hopeless:


I still have mine, I figure that it will cost me more to ship it back than the light. Hey Hoser can you PM me the info for that Tri/Lite guy?


Maybe he can help me with mine


Thanks
 

Hoser

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Jun 25, 2010
3,704
Ohio
Here is the information, Mine sounded horrible. My garbage disposal runs quieter than those lights


"Robert Herling" <Robert_Herling@triliteinc.com


Bob Herling


President


Tri Lite Inc.


773-384-7765


773-384-5115 fax


This is his sec. email Kathy Mann" <Kathy_Mann@triliteinc.com
 

50theman

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Feb 1, 2011
603
Virginia
Hoser said:
Here is the information, Mine sounded horrible. My garbage disposal runs quieter than those lights

"Robert Herling" <Robert_Herling@triliteinc.com


Bob Herling


President


Tri Lite Inc.


773-384-7765


773-384-5115 fax


This is his sec. email Kathy Mann" <Kathy_Mann@triliteinc.com

Got it, Big Thanks
 

Skip Goulet

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Feb 23, 2011
4,241
Midland, TX
With this thread about the Skybolts, I have to mention something. In 2002 I bought a '74 GMC VanDura Type II ambulance that came from a small town in OK, NW of OKC. It came with a pair of the two-lamp Skybolts up on the hightop. Both domes were badly faded, but I got two new domes from Tripp with no problem. The problem came with the clamp ring that hold the domes in place. It has a turn and twist mechanim to keep the domes in place. But for some reason I lost domes twice. That was enough! I replaced the two Mars lights with a pair of Junior Beacons that I had: one red, one blue. Did the trick! :yes:
 

kadetklapp

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May 21, 2010
1,568
Indiana
Well these things are certainly built down to a price. Not very impressive build quality. Pulled mine out of the box and put power to it and I've got a dead bulb. So much for getting new bulbs!
 

Sirenman

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May 25, 2010
252
Tucson, AZ USA
The light pictured in the Coleman's catalogue is not a Skybolt. It is a light designed specifically to fulfill a Federal contract. Although made by Trilite/MARS, it does not carry the "Skybolt" designation. Let's call a spade a spade.


One more bit of info that some may find useful. When securing the lens ring to a skybolt, use a small self tapping screw or sheet metal screw through the ring into the lower section of the light to lock it in place. These rings very commonly vibrate loose.


John Dorgan
 

sh329

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Oct 15, 2011
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n/a
Here's a photo of the tag on one I bought from Colemans. The mounting diagram included is dated April of 1986. It's nothing like the Skybolts that I remember but, apparently MARS recycled the Skybolt name for these US Army versions.

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100_3006.JPG
 

kadetklapp

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May 21, 2010
1,568
Indiana
I'm going to post over on SteelSoldiers and see if anyone there can tell me what application these were used on.


I know you are the vintage light authority, John, but these are indeed marked as "Skybolt" beacons. Obviously they share virtually nothing in common with a real skybolt (rotating assembly might be the same, IDK) but I see your point.


*ETA*


Someone on steel soldiers claims that these lights were used on MP Humvees.
 
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kadetklapp

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May 21, 2010
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Indiana
kadetklapp said:
I'm going to post over on SteelSoldiers and see if anyone there can tell me what application these were used on.

I know you are the vintage light authority, John, but these are indeed marked as "Skybolt" beacons. Obviously they share virtually nothing in common with a real skybolt (rotating assembly might be the same, IDK) but I see your point.


*ETA*


Someone on steel soldiers claims that these lights were used on MP Humvees.

I think I might have found one....


afc07.deviantart.net_fs51_f_2009_337_2_8_Army_MP_HMMWV__a_k_a__Hummvee__by_Divinicus.jpg


Although it sort of looks more like a Tripp-Lite. I will continue digging.
 

Skip Goulet

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Feb 23, 2011
4,241
Midland, TX
Sirenman said:
The light pictured in the Coleman's catalogue is not a Skybolt. It is a light designed specifically to fulfill a Federal contract. Although made by Trilite/MARS, it does not carry the "Skybolt" designation. Let's call a spade a spade.
One more bit of info that some may find useful. When securing the lens ring to a skybolt, use a small self tapping screw or sheet metal screw through the ring into the lower section of the light to lock it in place. These rings very commonly vibrate loose.


John Dorgan

Thanks for that info, John. I lost two new domes that way. They must've vibrated loose as you noted, as I wasn't driving fast when they "disappeared".
 

JohnMarcson

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May 7, 2010
11,043
Northwest Ohio
kadetklapp said:
I know you are the vintage light authority, John, but these are indeed marked as "Skybolt" beacons. Obviously they share virtually nothing in common with a real skybolt (rotating assembly might be the same, IDK) but I see your point.


.

I gotta agree with ya. In spirit they aren't skybolts to me.... but they do say skybolt right on them. I guess it's like when I see the new version of a classic car I like..... to me it's not the same car...... to the manufacturer it's still that model.
 

kadetklapp

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JohnMarcson said:
I gotta agree with ya. In spirit they aren't skybolts to me.... but they do say skybolt right on them. I guess it's like when I see the new version of a classic car I like..... to me it's not the same car...... to the manufacturer it's still that model.

A very good analogy, that.


I wonder why the regular Skybolt wasn't suitable to the .gov?


I found another pic of an MP Humvee, and this is definitely not a MARS light. I'm thinking Tripp-Lite still-


[Broken External Image]:http://militarypd.50webs.com/mp169.jpg
 

JohnMarcson

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kadetklapp said:
A very good analogy, that.

I wonder why the regular Skybolt wasn't suitable to the .gov?


I found another pic of an MP Humvee, and this is definitely not a MARS light. I'm thinking Tripp-Lite still-

I have bought military surplus that was "not optioned" or made in small batch and presented to the army but the army went with something else instead. I wonder if this was the case here. I have never seen the coleman version of the skybolt on a military vehicle.
 

kadetklapp

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JohnMarcson said:
I have bought military surplus that was "not optioned" or made in small batch and presented to the army but the army went with something else instead. I wonder if this was the case here. I have never seen the coleman version of the skybolt on a military vehicle.

That's something I was sort of wondering as well. They probably put out some specs for bid, everyone submitted something and they went with one or the other. These got tossed in a shed at the DRMO lot and the rest is history. Ah well, makes an interesting conversation piece.
 

dmathieu

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kadetklapp said:
A very good analogy, that.

I wonder why the regular Skybolt wasn't suitable to the .gov?


I found another pic of an MP Humvee, and this is definitely not a MARS light. I'm thinking Tripp-Lite still-


[Broken External Image]:http://militarypd.50webs.com/mp169.jpg

I had 2 lights that dad the same shape as the one in the picture (iI believe). They were Military spec., and had a Tek-Lite brand, with a Julian MacDermott dome. Same plastic base construction as the Coleman.


On these, the rotator consisted of a plastic teardrop assy. with the base cut to fit under the dome. Extremely poor quality. I can't believe that our tax dollars pay for this crap. (Probably a good deal more than we pay for a real light.)
 

kadetklapp

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Indiana
dmathieu said:
I had 2 lights that dad the same shape as the one in the picture (iI believe). They were Military spec., and had a Tek-Lite brand, with a Julian MacDermott dome. Same plastic base construction as the Coleman.
On these, the rotator consisted of a plastic teardrop assy. with the base cut to fit under the dome. Extremely poor quality. I can't believe that our tax dollars pay for this crap. (Probably a good deal more than we pay for a real light.)

Ugh, go figure.
 

JohnMarcson

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May 7, 2010
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Northwest Ohio
kadetklapp said:
That's something I was sort of wondering as well. They probably put out some specs for bid, everyone submitted something and they went with one or the other. These got tossed in a shed at the DRMO lot and the rest is history. Ah well, makes an interesting conversation piece.

That would be my guess.... I still wonder what the specs looked like... and how they ended up with such an over-sized base.
 

Skip Goulet

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Feb 23, 2011
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Midland, TX
JohnMarcson said:
I gotta agree with ya. In spirit they aren't skybolts to me.... but they do say skybolt right on them. I guess it's like when I see the new version of a classic car I like..... to me it's not the same car...... to the manufacturer it's still that model.

I have to agree with you here, John. If they were true Skybolts, even the colored domes, they would have the true Skybolt fluting inside the domes that allowed for colored inserts inside the clear domes. The comes that I mention above that were lost were solid red and blue, and they were made the same way as to accept the inserts, although that wouldn't work with a colored dome, obviously. :crazy:
 

JohnMarcson

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May 7, 2010
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Northwest Ohio
EL1998P71 said:
Since we are on the Skybolt theme.
I recently got one from Fleabay.


Do the newer ones accept the filters like the old ones?


Can you still get filters?


I wanted to add Red ones to the amber dome (the base is Black Plastic).

Adding red to the amber dome will make it look like a muddy dull dim blob. In order to add filters you need a clear dome.
 

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