My 2007 Toyota Tacoma Safety Vehicle.

mhayhurstjr

Member
Sep 18, 2011
36
Benson NC
Below are some pictures of my Toyota Tacoma in its early conversion from regular truck to safety vehicle. The last picture is what my truck looks like right now. I am on the command staff for my local CERT Team. We help the city with city related functions, provide parking on private property and some of our command staff members such as myself provide are trained to provide some medial treatment as the needed arises. We also get called out to large fires to provide basic rehab to firefighter on the scene. I also sell some emergency lighting. Also I am not a volunteer firefighter, ems or police officer. My lights are ALL amber and their is no Siren in my vehicle. I am not pretending to be someone else. I enjoy helping my community. Here in Florida the Only Volunteer fire Department I believe is towards the top of the State.


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HILO

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May 20, 2010
2,781
Grand Prairie Texas
What branch first responder, Police, Fire, or EMS? And its hard to tell what color your lights are. Truck looks nice though. I don't know that I have seen a volunteer POV with equipment from Florida.
 

mhayhurstjr

Member
Sep 18, 2011
36
Benson NC
NYBLS said:
What exactly is this truck for as a "safety vehicle"?

Hey NYBLS, thanks for the reply. I am a certified First Responder, so I would use the lights if I came across an accident. I also volunteer for some city functions as well such as a parking detail or to provide medical for a city function.
 

mhayhurstjr

Member
Sep 18, 2011
36
Benson NC
HILO said:
What branch first responder, Police, Fire, or EMS? And its hard to tell what color your lights are. Truck looks nice though. I don't know that I have seen a volunteer POV with equipment from Florida.

Hi Hilo, I am a medial First Responder. Here in Florida I cannot run code to a call for fire rehab so I dont use the light much, but I have them in case I need them.
 

HILO

Member
May 20, 2010
2,781
Grand Prairie Texas
mhayhurstjr said:
Hey NYBLS, thanks for the reply. I am a certified First Responder, so I would use the lights if I came across an accident. I also volunteer for some city functions as well such as a parking detail or to provide medical for a city function.

Hmmmm, I know nothing about Florida law Sooooo...... :popcorn:
 

mhayhurstjr

Member
Sep 18, 2011
36
Benson NC
I am just an independent First responder who is DOT certified. So according to Florida Law because I am not a volunteer firefighter I cannot run code anywhere and I can only use my lights when I am parked to warn traffic of a danger. Also I can only use amber or white on my vehicle. BUT I can also use red but only in the back. Florida is very Strict.
 

NYBLS

Member
Oct 13, 2010
219
NY,USA
So, you are not affiliated with an agency? Just a random individual who is a certified first responder? What lights do you have out front? Got a video?
 

EMS10EMT

Member
Aug 31, 2010
397
NJ
An unafilliated DOT certified first responder who does traffic control, parking, fire rehab, and has lights "just in case?"


Like HILO, I have no clue what Florida is like but Im heading to the microwave.
 

mhayhurstjr

Member
Sep 18, 2011
36
Benson NC
EMS10EMT said:
An unafilliated DOT certified first responder who does traffic control, parking, fire rehab, and has lights "just in case?"

Like HILO, I have no clue what Florida is like but Im heading to the microwave.

I don't do traffic control as I am not certified to to that. the Parking and fire rehab is through the CERT team.
 

smsales

Member
May 21, 2010
479
West Michigan
EMS10EMT said:
An unafilliated DOT certified first responder who does traffic control, parking, fire rehab, and has lights "just in case?"

Like HILO, I have no clue what Florida is like but Im heading to the microwave.

+1 :popcorn:
 

mhayhurstjr

Member
Sep 18, 2011
36
Benson NC
NYBLS said:
So, you are not affiliated with an agency? Just a random individual who is a certified first responder? What lights do you have out front? Got a video?

I am just a trained individual who enjoys helping others, I am part of my communities CERT team.
 

Tom

Member
Dec 18, 2010
3,083
Taunton, MA
What are the list of the lights that are used on your vehicle?
 

mhayhurstjr

Member
Sep 18, 2011
36
Benson NC
tom said:
What are the list of the lights that are used on your vehicle?

Hey TOM, I have a voltex visor light, some 4 LED modules from prestige lighting and a bunch of lights from LED outfitters. I will have a full list and pictures this weekend. I am working on exclusively using LED outfitters lights and hopefully selling them in the future.
 

HILO

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May 20, 2010
2,781
Grand Prairie Texas
smiley-eatdrink033.gif I've missed threads like this. I admit it.
 

HILO

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May 20, 2010
2,781
Grand Prairie Texas
mhayhurstjr said:
Hi Hilo, can you elaborate on your comment please? I am not sure what you mean?


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108FP1

Member
Sep 17, 2011
278
Pittsburgh PA
Generalized "whacker bashing". I'm very glad that this site moved away from it for the most part. There are some here who will relentlessly beat you up for having lights and not being fire/police/ems.


The setup looks good from the outside, but what does the inside look like? Also, I can very clearly see a pair of STL Box Grilles under your front bumper. I'll be the first to say it....STAY AWAY FROM STL!!!! They are cheap for a reason. I myself, cannot afford a lot of LED lighting, so I have a Code 3 MX7K. Name brand halogen is better than Chinese LED.


Playing devil's advocate...I am a former CERT member and a CERT Instructor. When we formed our neighborhood CERT, we had frequent contact with fire department officials in setting up the program. We were asked if we were going to have a vehicle, to which I said I had a Jeep in which we were going to keep a lot of equipment and supplies. I was asked (not told) that it would be a good idea to get some amber lighting and some type of identification so there would be no confusion spotting it in the area should a disaster arise. The next week, there was an amber strobe Vista on it, as well as CERT in large reflective lettering on the rear window and rear cargo area windows. The Vista was salvaged from my work as a "get it out of here" special. It used to be a lightbar for one of the old security trucks. I can see why CERT would have amber lighting on a dedicated vehicle.


Hell, wasn't there a guy here a few years ago that was a CERT Chief in his locality and he had a fully marked Suburban with red & blues?
 

HILO

Member
May 20, 2010
2,781
Grand Prairie Texas
108FP1 said:
Generalized "whacker bashing". I'm very glad that this site moved away from it for the most part. There are some here who will relentlessly beat you up for having lights and not being fire/police/ems.

Thats just not true and unfair. Tow trucks are perfectly acceptable vehicles for warning lights, as are snow plows, utility trucks, constructions vehicles, company owned security guard vehicles, The POTUS's vehicles, licensed and legal blood/organ vehicles, legal or authorized funeral vehicles, pilot cars, school bus'es, accredited disaster response vehicles, trains, golf carts, power wheels operated by children, restored vintage vehicles, movie prop vehicles, and ice cream trucks. I dont recall anyone having anything bad to say abot the listed legitimate vehicles having lights.


countdown the ways you are offensive....smiley-finger009.gif
 

mhayhurstjr

Member
Sep 18, 2011
36
Benson NC
108FP1 said:
Generalized "whacker bashing". I'm very glad that this site moved away from it for the most part. There are some here who will relentlessly beat you up for having lights and not being fire/police/ems.

The setup looks good from the outside, but what does the inside look like? Also, I can very clearly see a pair of STL Box Grilles under your front bumper. I'll be the first to say it....STAY AWAY FROM STL!!!! They are cheap for a reason. I myself, cannot afford a lot of LED lighting, so I have a Code 3 MX7K. Name brand halogen is better than Chinese LED.
Hi 108FP1, I appreciate your comment and you are correct about my STL lights. That is the only STL on my vehicle and they will be replaced soon. I can see how some my call me a whacker, but I enjoy what I do and if I can find a way to do it professionally then I will. I would love to be involved in emergency management or something to that affect, no one is hiring for any kind of emergency managment. As far as CERT its funny in my city, they don't like members of the team not even command staff such as my self to have lights in our vehicle. I use my vehicle as a command vehicle sometimes. Kinda funny how Florida works. I will have a list and more pictures this weekend.
 

mhayhurstjr

Member
Sep 18, 2011
36
Benson NC
HILO said:
Thats just not true and unfair. Tow trucks are perfectly acceptable vehicles for warning lights, as are snow plows, utility trucks, constructions vehicles, company owned security guard vehicles, The POTUS's vehicles, licensed and legal blood/organ vehicles, legal or authorized funeral vehicles, pilot cars, school bus'es, accredited disaster response vehicles, trains, golf carts, power wheels operated by children, restored vintage vehicles, movie prop vehicles, and ice cream trucks. I dont recall anyone having anything bad to say abot the listed legitimate vehicles having lights.

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Hilo, I would appreciate it if you did not reply further in this post please. I am not a whacker and I enjoy helping my community and helping my local firefighter. I am in the process of starting a career in the general field of emergency management.
 

50theman

Member
Feb 1, 2011
603
Virginia
mhayhurstjr said:
Hi 108FP1, I appreciate your comment and you are correct about my STL lights. That is the only STL on my vehicle and they will be replaced soon. I can see how some my call me a whacker, but I enjoy what I do and if I can find a way to do it professionally then I will. I would love to be involved in emergency management or something to that affect, no one is hiring for any kind of emergency managment. As far as CERT its funny in my city, they don't like members of the team not even command staff such as my self to have lights in our vehicle. I use my vehicle as a command vehicle sometimes. Kinda funny how Florida works. I will have a list and more pictures this weekend.

Then why have them? You can not run code? Are you (E.V.O.C.)Emergency Vehicle Operators Course certified? Does your car have a siren????


I don't know about Florida's laws, but you come to Virginia with red lights flashing on your car anywhere and not be a Volunteer Firefighter, Ambulance Driver, or Police Chaplain. You sir will be given a ticket on the spot.


No offense intended at all. I'm just trying to get the facts straight. I like your setup and the lights, its just I don't want to see you get in trouble.


Take Care,


5-0


:popo:
 

mhayhurstjr

Member
Sep 18, 2011
36
Benson NC
50theman said:
Then why have them? You can not run code? Are you (E.V.O.C.)Emergency Vehicle Operators Course certified? Does your car have a siren????

I don't know about Florida's laws, but you come to Virginia with red lights flashing on your car anywhere and not be a Volunteer Firefighter, Ambulance Driver, or Police Chaplain. You sir will be given a ticket on the spot.


No offense intended at all. I'm just trying to get the facts straight. I like your setup and the lights, its just I don't want to see you get in trouble.


Take Care,


5-0


:popo:

Thanks for the post and reply. All my lighting is legal, it's all Amber lights, and their is no Siren in my vehicle. I just have lights and some Medical equipment. That's about it. I have used my lights for a few parking/safety details. The LAW in Florida is very very Strict and I made sure that I did not break any rules. I appreciate you pointing that information out to me and I did not know that people here were going to poke fun here lol.
 

50theman

Member
Feb 1, 2011
603
Virginia
mhayhurstjr said:
Thanks for the post and reply. All my lighting is legal, it's all Amber lights, and their is no Siren in my vehicle. I just have lights and some Medical equipment. That's about it. I have used my lights for a few parking/safety details. The LAW in Florida is very very Strict and I made sure that I did not break any rules. I appreciate you pointing that information out to me and I did not know that people here were going to poke fun here lol.

FYI.........


316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.—


(1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided.


(2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections or any county correctional agency may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.


(3) Vehicles of the fire department and fire patrol, including vehicles of volunteer firefighters as permitted under s. 316.2398, vehicles of medical staff physicians or technicians of medical facilities licensed by the state as authorized under s. 316.2398, ambulances as authorized under this chapter, and buses and taxicabs as authorized under s. 316.2399 are permitted to show or display red lights. Vehicles of the fire department, fire patrol, police vehicles, and such ambulances and emergency vehicles of municipal and county departments, public service corporations operated by private corporations, the Department of Environmental Protection, the Department of Transportation, the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, and the Department of Corrections as are designated or authorized by their respective department or the chief of police of an incorporated city or any sheriff of any county are hereby authorized to operate emergency lights and sirens in an emergency. Wreckers, mosquito control fog and spray vehicles, and emergency vehicles of governmental departments or public service corporations may show or display amber lights when in actual operation or when a hazard exists provided they are not used going to and from the scene of operation or hazard without specific authorization of a law enforcement officer or law enforcement agency. Wreckers must use amber rotating or flashing lights while performing recoveries and loading on the roadside day or night, and may use such lights while towing a vehicle on wheel lifts, slings, or under reach if the operator of the wrecker deems such lights necessary. A flatbed, car carrier, or rollback may not use amber rotating or flashing lights when hauling a vehicle on the bed unless it creates a hazard to other motorists because of protruding objects. Further, escort vehicles may show or display amber lights when in the actual process of escorting overdimensioned equipment, material, or buildings as authorized by law. Vehicles owned or leased by private security agencies may show or display green and amber lights, with either color being no greater than 50 percent of the lights displayed, while the security personnel are engaged in security duties on private or public property.


(4) Road or street maintenance equipment, road or street maintenance vehicles, road service vehicles, refuse collection vehicles, petroleum tankers, and mail carrier vehicles may show or display amber lights when in operation or a hazard exists.


(5) Road maintenance and construction equipment and vehicles may display flashing white lights or flashing white strobe lights when in operation and where a hazard exists. Additionally, school buses and vehicles that are used to transport farm workers may display flashing white strobe lights.


(6) All lighting equipment heretofore referred to shall meet all requirements as set forth in s. 316.241.


(7) Flashing lights are prohibited on vehicles except as a means of indicating a right or left turn, to change lanes, or to indicate that the vehicle is lawfully stopped or disabled upon the highway or except that the lamps authorized in subsections (1), (2), (3), (4), and (9) and s. 316.235(5) are permitted to flash.


(8) Subsections (1) and (7) do not apply to police, fire, or authorized emergency vehicles while in the performance of their necessary duties.


(9) Flashing red lights may be used by emergency response vehicles of the Department of Environmental Protection and the Department of Health when responding to an emergency in the line of duty.


(10) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.
 

mhayhurstjr

Member
Sep 18, 2011
36
Benson NC
50theman said:
FYI.........

316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.—


(1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided.


(2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections or any county correctional agency may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.


(3) Vehicles of the fire department and fire patrol, including vehicles of volunteer firefighters as permitted under s. 316.2398, vehicles of medical staff physicians or technicians of medical facilities licensed by the state as authorized under s. 316.2398, ambulances as authorized under this chapter, and buses and taxicabs as authorized under s. 316.2399 are permitted to show or display red lights. Vehicles of the fire department, fire patrol, police vehicles, and such ambulances and emergency vehicles of municipal and county departments, public service corporations operated by private corporations, the Department of Environmental Protection, the Department of Transportation, the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, and the Department of Corrections as are designated or authorized by their respective department or the chief of police of an incorporated city or any sheriff of any county are hereby authorized to operate emergency lights and sirens in an emergency. Wreckers, mosquito control fog and spray vehicles, and emergency vehicles of governmental departments or public service corporations may show or display amber lights when in actual operation or when a hazard exists provided they are not used going to and from the scene of operation or hazard without specific authorization of a law enforcement officer or law enforcement agency. Wreckers must use amber rotating or flashing lights while performing recoveries and loading on the roadside day or night, and may use such lights while towing a vehicle on wheel lifts, slings, or under reach if the operator of the wrecker deems such lights necessary. A flatbed, car carrier, or rollback may not use amber rotating or flashing lights when hauling a vehicle on the bed unless it creates a hazard to other motorists because of protruding objects. Further, escort vehicles may show or display amber lights when in the actual process of escorting overdimensioned equipment, material, or buildings as authorized by law. Vehicles owned or leased by private security agencies may show or display green and amber lights, with either color being no greater than 50 percent of the lights displayed, while the security personnel are engaged in security duties on private or public property.


(4) Road or street maintenance equipment, road or street maintenance vehicles, road service vehicles, refuse collection vehicles, petroleum tankers, and mail carrier vehicles may show or display amber lights when in operation or a hazard exists.


(5) Road maintenance and construction equipment and vehicles may display flashing white lights or flashing white strobe lights when in operation and where a hazard exists. Additionally, school buses and vehicles that are used to transport farm workers may display flashing white strobe lights.


(6) All lighting equipment heretofore referred to shall meet all requirements as set forth in s. 316.241.


(7) Flashing lights are prohibited on vehicles except as a means of indicating a right or left turn, to change lanes, or to indicate that the vehicle is lawfully stopped or disabled upon the highway or except that the lamps authorized in subsections (1), (2), (3), (4), and (9) and s. 316.235(5) are permitted to flash.


(8) Subsections (1) and (7) do not apply to police, fire, or authorized emergency vehicles while in the performance of their necessary duties.


(9) Flashing red lights may be used by emergency response vehicles of the Department of Environmental Protection and the Department of Health when responding to an emergency in the line of duty.


(10) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.

Thank you for posting this, I Read through them before I started adding lights in my vehicle. I have been asked my many police officers here in Florida about my lights and I tell them the truth. That's it, I am not breaking any laws here.
 

Hoser

Member
Jun 25, 2010
3,704
Ohio
Good lookin truck and a clean install from what is seen, as long as it keeps you and others safe in your functions is all that matters. I belong to a group that is ran out of our local Sheriffs office. Its kinda nice not having to be the First Responder. Had plenty of that. We do a little of everything, security at several events, both during the event and at nite when its closed down. Governors cup boat races (a personal favorite LOL) and assist at all kinds of emergencies. Basically anything they page us for.
 

108FP1

Member
Sep 17, 2011
278
Pittsburgh PA
OK, let's yank some kinks out of this really quick.


- If your locals don't like you guys having lights, don't have lights. If they are to be used on private property, keep an LED mini-bar inside somewhere and use it on parking details. If you occasionally run command for a CERT, keep a green throw light inside too, and only place and use it when you are actually operating command. Please note that if your CERT is being used under the Unified Command Structure aspect of NIMS, that you should not hulk up your "command vehicle" and run a separate command. Two separate commands can lead to miscommunications, which can lead to death of your team members, public safety agents, or the general public. This would be considered freelancing and is very dangerous.


- I don't buy all the BS about wreckers and such either. Nothing makes a replica police car builder more a rightful owner of warning lights than a CERT member or a security officer. They are members of the general public too. I have no problem with CERT people getting snagged up for lighting if the police don't like it, just like I would have no problem if a replica PD driver gets snatched up for cutting his red/blues on while driving down the interstate. There is legal, there is local back-turning, and there is illegal.


- Now with all of this being said, CERT is a valuable and important function, and every locality that has CERT available to them would be foolish not to use them. If you want a great CERT, not just a good, or even functioning one, do the following:


All Commanders


NIMS 100/200/700/800



IS 240/241



ESF9



CPR/AED



ARC Advanced First Aid



Hazmat Awareness



Terrorism First Response Awareness



Shelter Operations



Traffic Flagger



CERT Basic



CERT Instructor (train-the-trainer class)






All Members


NIMS 100/700



ESF9



CPR/AED



ARC Advanced First Aid



Hazmat Awareness



Terrorism First Response Awareness



Shelter Operations



Traffic Flagger



CERT Basic






Agency


GMRS/FRS/TriSquare ISM? Sure...for local comms (like a single neighborhood), but for a greater area, not good. Get a pool together for the group to license a channel pair or two, and put up a repeater or two. It works better than simplex comms, and gives far-increased capabilities, with less channel interference, and is far cheaper than LMR rentals.






The recommended loadout for CERT is found in most every CERT handbook. Get familiar with it, and acquire it. If the team is successful enough, the team can purchase a used vehicle and store the equipment, ready to roll. This saves a LOT of time and headache. The one thing I found when doing continuing education for CERTs are that they were woefully underprepared.






The standard, accepted, nationwide uniform of CERT is a safety green traffic vest and a safety green OSHA/ANSI hard hat. Get nice vests for the team members. They cost more, but last longer and look better. On my team, we all agreed to buy our own Bullard Advent helmets in bright green, and properly marked them as EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM (CERT wasn't available) reflective side crescents. Make sure the vests are properly printed with your (county, neighborhood, locality) name and CERT in huge reflective letters on the back. This will eliminate any possibility of wannabe or imposter behavior (which, I'm not saying you are, I'm saying CERT attracts tons of those).






Put the suggested training into play. Make it a requirement for your team commanders and members to have that training regimen within a certain timeframe, or they get deactivated. This will weed out the wannabes and imposters, by the way. This is what separates the wheat from the chaff.






Some places use a rank structure, and while many here frown on it, I think a structured chain of command works wonders. It also falls in line with the UCS, and NIMS, which CERT is to operate under. While it is very whackerish to use military rank grades and insignia, there are other, more subtle ways to do it. "Lieutenant" and "Captain" are acceptable. If you have these grades, these should be on the back of each officer's vest, as well as on the helmet crests. Commanders should have white helmets, unlike the green of the subordinates. This way, there is no real whackerism, and people can still tell who is in charge, and who is not.






If you buy a vehicle for team use,
and it is agreed upon by your locals, it may be outfitted with a basic mini lightbar or throw light. This is for safety, as it may be parked in some oddball places if disaster hits. MAKE SURE IT IS MARKED. Make sure it is insured, inspected, registered, etc. Keep it in good repair, for it is your equipment truck and lives may depend on it's mechanical state. In some areas, the team-owned CERT vehicle is eligible for disaster or emergency tags and related equipment. If this becomes the case, make sure it is insured as an EV, tagged as an EV, and all drivers are to have EVOC. No exceptions.





Focus on PR. Make regular contacts within your supporting government, fire, EMS, and police departments. Learn from them. If they offer classes, take them. Participate in local safety days. Participate in National Night Out.



Now, the short version is this: There is no short version. If you want a great team, read everything that was written above. Do the things I said do, and don't do the things I said don't do. CERT is a strange and precarious niche in most of the country, as it is a Federally sponsored, Federally created program, who's oversight is left up to local officials who view them as nothing more than REACT II, and assembled and staffed by Joe Blows.


Now...........


Education is free. If I were you, I would go onto FEMA's website and go through their online training courses. Study and complete as many of them as you can. If you want to do anything in this field, you should do this, for it helps greatly. It also will provide you with a viewpoint you might not already have.
 

medic6414

Member
Oct 9, 2010
71
USA, MN
looks good man! dont worry, some of the people on here have nothing better to do that to worry about who has lights and for what reason. for some reason they feel its their job to police the world of blinking lights. are you planning on going further on in EMS, ie emt medic?
 

robert911

Member
Jul 16, 2010
63
Sevierville, TN
Who cares why he has these lights? I have lights in my truck and I don't really need them. I've had all types of flashing, alternating, blinky, rotating, etc, lights.....for a lot longer than this forum or even the internet has been around. I like lights.


People do all types of things to their vehicles that are not really needed. I know lots of people that buy a car/truck with a trailer hitch, fog lights, dvd players that never use them. My mom has an 7 yo mini van that has dvd player in it that has never been turned on. My dad installed a $300.00 air horn on this van and I don't think my mom ever blows the horn. If someone is doing something with their lights that is wrong, illegal, immoral, covert, stupid or otherwise, they will get caught. Does not matter if they are 16 or 60.


I like this forum. I have learned alot of good info. I have gotton some good deals on lights and other items on here but some of the comments on here are just.....well.....absurd. It is obvious some of the comments are meant to demean or belittle others. Do you, the ones making this type of comment, validate yourselves this way? This forum encourages participation, submissions, etc, then when someone post something and it does not meet your criteria for necessity, or usefullness, the negative undertones or all out statements begin.


I am no pro flower power, tree hugging, love every one and every thing, mamby pamby. I just think we could be a little less judgemental and just use this site for what I think it's original intention was. A website where people with similar interest could get together and share ideas, learn, buy - sell -trade, etc, etc. Not beat up on each other! Let's save the beatin's for the real criminals, politicians, (possibly one in the same) etc, and just have FUN!


Ok, I will go back to my hole......
 

medic6414

Member
Oct 9, 2010
71
USA, MN
robert911 said:
Who cares why he has these lights? I have lights in my truck and I don't really need them. I've had all types of flashing, alternating, blinky, rotating, etc, lights.....for a lot longer than this forum or even the internet has been around. I like lights.

People do all types of things to their vehicles that are not really needed. I know lots of people that buy a car/truck with a trailer hitch, fog lights, dvd players that never use them. My mom has an 7 yo mini van that has dvd player in it that has never been turned on. My dad installed a $300.00 air horn on this van and I don't think my mom ever blows the horn. If someone is doing something with their lights that is wrong, illegal, immoral, covert, stupid or otherwise, they will get caught. Does not matter if they are 16 or 60.


I like this forum. I have learned alot of good info. I have gotton some good deals on lights and other items on here but some of the comments on here are just.....well.....absurd. It is obvious some of the comments are meant to demean or belittle others. Do you, the ones making this type of comment, validate yourselves this way? This forum encourages participation, submissions, etc, then when someone post something and it does not meet your criteria for necessity, or usefullness, the negative undertones or all out statements begin.


I am no pro flower power, tree hugging, love every one and every thing, mamby pamby. I just think we could be a little less judgemental and just use this site for what I think it's original intention was. A website where people with similar interest could get together and share ideas, learn, buy - sell -trade, etc, etc. Not beat up on each other! Let's save the beatin's for the real criminals, politicians, (possibly one in the same) etc, and just have FUN!


Ok, I will go back to my hole......


+++++1 i had something very simular to this typed up but i decided not to post it but i agree!!
 

Ipuvaepe

Member
Jun 25, 2011
884
Southeast Pennsylvania
mhayhurstjr said:
I have a voltex visor light
Since you guys steamrolled right over this, this is cheapochina stuff too. Though, it is one of the better Cheap O'China in my opinion. Have recommended it as auxiliary extreme budget lighting before.
 

fire1

Member
Jun 5, 2011
621
Michigan
robert911 said:
Who cares why he has these lights? I have lights in my truck and I don't really need them. I've had all types of flashing, alternating, blinky, rotating, etc, lights.....for a lot longer than this forum or even the internet has been around. I like lights.

People do all types of things to their vehicles that are not really needed. I know lots of people that buy a car/truck with a trailer hitch, fog lights, dvd players that never use them. My mom has an 7 yo mini van that has dvd player in it that has never been turned on. My dad installed a $300.00 air horn on this van and I don't think my mom ever blows the horn. If someone is doing something with their lights that is wrong, illegal, immoral, covert, stupid or otherwise, they will get caught. Does not matter if they are 16 or 60.


I like this forum. I have learned alot of good info. I have gotton some good deals on lights and other items on here but some of the comments on here are just.....well.....absurd. It is obvious some of the comments are meant to demean or belittle others. Do you, the ones making this type of comment, validate yourselves this way? This forum encourages participation, submissions, etc, then when someone post something and it does not meet your criteria for necessity, or usefullness, the negative undertones or all out statements begin.


I am no pro flower power, tree hugging, love every one and every thing, mamby pamby. I just think we could be a little less judgemental and just use this site for what I think it's original intention was. A website where people with similar interest could get together and share ideas, learn, buy - sell -trade, etc, etc. Not beat up on each other! Let's save the beatin's for the real criminals, politicians, (possibly one in the same) etc, and just have FUN!


Ok, I will go back to my hole......

I could not have said it any better.
 

mhayhurstjr

Member
Sep 18, 2011
36
Benson NC
108FP1 said:
OK, let's yank some kinks out of this really quick.

Thanks, I am working on the FEMA IS Stuff, NIMS is darn boring lol. We as CERT have a trailer and are working on getting one of our departments Rescue's to be used as a rehab truck for fires. CERT is indeed an odd creature. I love it and will be making some serious strides to turn my passion for this stuff into a career some how.
 

mhayhurstjr

Member
Sep 18, 2011
36
Benson NC
medic6414 said:
looks good man! dont worry, some of the people on here have nothing better to do that to worry about who has lights and for what reason. for some reason they feel its their job to police the world of blinking lights. are you planning on going further on in EMS, ie emt medic?

Thanks man ya it was odd when I added some pictures for others to see how a Tacoma is set up and BAM I was getting criticized. Its the nature of these types of Forums I guess. As far as EMS, I am not sure yet. I want to pursue it in NC, but not here in Florida.
 

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