ryan said:Well, if I was a firefighter and also ran a lawn care business I could buy one bar and serve both my needs.
red and blue lights often draw attention, where as amber tends to mean caution.
SireLite said:Also useful if going out of state. You can set it to all amber and your safe to go. If you get pulled by the cops you have an amber lightbar.
JHEATHJR said:I think it is a Great Idea for those of us in the Construction Industry AND Serve on a Volunteer Fire Department.
Amber for the job site (Highway, Street, Etc) Red/White (Etc) for Calls.
( :lol: yes I have seen the Whelen and Federal Signal ones to, just one more to add to the dual purpose list :lol: )
On traffic stops you still want to have the red/blue. people are going to pay more attention to red/blue as appose to just amber. Now on the back i can under stand but the pd should just buy the lightbar with amber in the back to begin with but the front should always stay red/blue. And also why would you want to change the front to amber what purpose would that serve.Fast LT1 said:I believe all Pd's should have this, because you could run red/blue to code and during traffic stops could run amber to reduce the likely hood of getting your ass ran over!
fireman616wfd said:yea ryan i can see in some cases (idk why you would need a full size LED for lawn care) but i just didnt think it would be an high enough overall demand that someone would actually do it. Im by no means knocking the bar the i think its awesome how things have come around just i guess i am curious as to what you would use it for (something that would sell alot of bars)
fireman616wfd said:but i mean that really makes no sense... if you get pulled over by a cop your going to turn your "amber" lightbar on?
JohnMarcson said:A dual red blue would be great for florida. They run those dual level javlins that are blue at night and red in the day.
Although Code 3 does not offer dual-color modules, they WERE the first to introduce a lighting system that offered a more systematic control of displaying red and blue signals. Unfortunately, used the Javelin in the unique PS3 System. Why? Only God knows, but that lightbar was sent back to England with its tail between its legs. I'm sure will be back on board when they introduce their version of the dual-color Torrent.C3Kurt said:The jury is still out in my opinion on dual-color technology. It is novel and has some uses (see FL comment from John), but with the economy in the gutter it seems to be a feature most can do without. No doubt, though on the "neat" factor when it comes to the current stable of dual color manufacturers. When the economy turns around and our industry/public sector catches up a year or two later, maybe then the multi-color bars will fly off the shelves and you can be assured Code 3 will be on board.
Thank you for that enlightening marketing info. I really can't imagine any lighting manufacturer producing any particular product exclusively for the volunteer sector, as it's just not cost effective. I daresay that the majority of the products were introduced to satisfy a set of requirements set forth by a large (statewide) contract, such as the CHP, PSP and others. The volunteer sector and other smaller segments benefit from these developments, as these products are usually offered to them as well. I do agree with your opinion about finding a Defender on a , as it's rather difficult for a volunteer to realistically pay for a highly-overpriced lightbar for that use. Even the RX 2700 is too expensive. Doing cost comparisions, Federal Signal, SoundOff Signal and Whelen aren't nearly as expensive as 's products.I'm sorry to disappoint all you volunteer/lawn care guys out there who want an amber/blue lightbar or budding volunteer who wants a red/blue for when they become Chief (and we do appreciate your business), but the big 3 and others aren't building dual color technology/lightbars to hit your demographic. If a certain out of this world technology comes out (i.e. the newmulti-color bar) it is usually built with a particular state/city contract (PA and NY come to mind) or OEM in mind. I'm trying to come up with one volunteer firefighter that has a Defender on their ...........correct me if I'm wrong guys and send me a picture.
We'll thank Axixtech for the Falcon, I mean, the Frontier. Although I'm not one of them, I know many volunteers who have a small business where they use amber signals in addtion to their red or blue signals for use. The dual-color technology is perfect for them! In fact, I've had several locals inquire about the availability of this technology and its related cost.Just my two cents, and don't take it the wrong way guys I don't mean to offend the volunteer market out there. In fact, we have been coming out with several products lately to hit that market segment (Frontier, LSS222, Visor Flip Light to name a few).
Just like everyone else we need all the business we can get, but I have to chuckle when I hear someone imagining the day when they can run amber while they cut Mrs. Cleaver's yard and blue at night when they are responding to a fire at O'Leary's dairy.
fireman616wfd said:Again im not knocking the bar nor anything someone says it can be used for, just wondering..
Alovebaby41 said:On traffic stops you still want to have the red/blue. people are going to pay more attention to red/blue as appose to just amber. Now on the back i can under stand but the pd should just buy the lightbar with amber in the back to begin with but the front should always stay red/blue. And also why would you want to change the front to amber what purpose would that serve.