NYPD Spotted with Vision SLR

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whackerusa

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I was out and about last night and came across NYPD using the Vision SLR. Unfortunately, they put the ugly Whelen message board (which is 100% useless) on the back of it. It seems that they may are using more and more Ford Fusions.


The bar looks great although there was one pod that the blue was not working in the rear.


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TritonBoulder47 said:
Looks sweet... I'd LOVE to have one of those messengers... Especially since they are blue now instead amber or red...
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The blue you cant read unless you are standing a few feet from it
 
I work for FDNY i stare at those message boards all the time.


They are RETARDED. The one thing they do well is an arrow stick because they are like 3" thick but a high wattage halogen bar still wipes the floor with it.


You can't read what it says without being within 10 feet and i would not be suprised if it has caused a fender bender from people trying to make out what it says while driving by.
 
Abacus said:
The blue you cant read unless you are standing a few feet from it
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ELS said:
I work for FDNY i stare at those message boards all the time.

They are RETARDED. The one thing they do well is an arrow stick because they are like 3" thick but a high wattage halogen bar still wipes the floor with it.


You can't read what it says without being within 10 feet and i would not be suprised if it has caused a fender bender from people trying to make out what it says while driving by.
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I dont care much about the functionality... I have enough other lights for that... LoL I just was a blue Smart Messenger... lol
 
I've yet to see one in person and don't think I will, any time soon. The departments in my area are pretty cash strapped as it is - something as balls to the wall spec'd out as an SLR isn't even on the drawing board. Arjents just started showing up, really, in the last 2yrs or so... Over 3/4's the fleet of one of our local departments (3rd largest PD in the state) is still rocking all light Streethawks on active road patrol!
 
Paramedic said:
What siren controller is that ?
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It looks to me like the 6-button FedSig lightbar controller... or maybe an SS200.


Box to the left is the Whelen Smart Messenger controller, I think.
 
Paramedic said:
What siren controller is that ?
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to the Left is the controller for the message board, and to the Right (Hard to see) is the Smart siren control head, this is obv a newer NYPd car, they have the computer mounted vertically opposed to horizontally although it can be moved. Quite a different setup.
 
I like the SLR rotator lights, the the frame it's mounted on is very chunky.


Looks like someone had some scrap metal and stuck lights on it.


Where as with the Vector/Vision, the light pods fit the frame better.


I wonder why they just didn't put those pods inside a regular vector setup? ( or did they? )


Just my 1 cent (gotta cut back somewhere in the economy :p )
 
city of ny uses alot of useless junk, such as the message boards on those visions, and alot of other stuff....because the generals services administration of nyc get a great kickback and special incentives from lightbar companys if they get the contract for 1000 whelen message boards or something else....kinda like being on "the take".


I remember when they bought thousands of red whelen edge bars for transit authority maintence suburbans that would fix buses.....total waste....RED?


And nypd tow trucks with red grill lights led and some red lightbars??? why? red?
 
ELS said:
I work for FDNY i stare at those message boards all the time.

They are RETARDED. The one thing they do well is an arrow stick because they are like 3" thick but a high wattage halogen bar still wipes the floor with it.


You can't read what it says without being within 10 feet and i would not be suprised if it has caused a fender bender from people trying to make out what it says while driving by.
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+1


Good idea, just they cant be read from a distance at all. I see people all the time swerve into other lanes almost hitting cars cause they are so focused on them
 
If they are the "in thing" nyc will buy them to be trendy or the first....despite them actually working properly ..........you know how many cops still dont know how to use a vision bar since we had them for over 20 yrs here already.....they dont even bother to look at the nypd users placard that is in the sunvisior on every unit(its too compicated for them)....but they just look 'cool' on the roof....
 
and the red on the nypd tow trucks is totally authorized, they are driven by traffic agents, who are authorized to use red, so it makes sense........
 
911 said:
and the red on the nypd tow trucks is totally authorized, they are driven by traffic agents, who are authorized to use red, so it makes sense........
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true they are authorized to have red by the city BUT in reality , a tow truck nor a traffic agent(meter maid) is "not" a emergency vehicle that is used to save lives, compared to a police , ems or fire vehicle even if it is part of traffic agents units. So red should not be a color that is designated to any tow vehicles. Amber or clear is a valid color.\\


just my opinion based on other state jursidictions i have seen
 
ok, and i will say it again like i did not too long ago....... during hurricane irene, my pct went down to staten island traffic and we took all the vehicles they had available......and regular police officers used them to get around in.......so there is reasons behind everything........some people may not like it........but they do have a valid reason behind it all........
 
911 said:
ok, and i will say it again like i did not too long ago....... during hurricane irene, my pct went down to staten island traffic and we took all the vehicles they had available......and regular police officers used them to get around in.......so there is reasons behind everything........some people may not like it........but they do have a valid reason behind it all........
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long time no see, in "NY time" that is not long enough.....but anyways im sure a hurricane happens once every 30 yrs but i cant see how many countless times i see wananbe cops " traffic brownies" disrregarding every law ,running traffic lights, speeding, tailigating on my bumper (which i dont pull over) flashing their red lights on their tow rigs to get to tow a car, risking other peoples lifes to make a impound tow dollar.


Doesnt sound like a valid reason


just my opinion , thanks for your advice
 
Dpenhaul said:
If they are the "in thing" nyc will buy them to be trendy or the first....despite them actually working properly ..........you know how many cops still dont know how to use a vision bar since we had them for over 20 yrs here already.....they dont even bother to look at the nypd users placard that is in the sunvisior on every unit(its too compicated for them)....but they just look 'cool' on the roof....
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Unless they resumed installing those user placards recently, they disappeared when the Ford Crown Vics replaced the Chevy Caprices in 1995 or 1996.
 
Dpenhaul said:
true they are authorized to have red by the city BUT in reality , a tow truck nor a traffic agent(meter maid) is "not" a emergency vehicle that is used to save lives, compared to a police , ems or fire vehicle even if it is part of traffic agents units. So red should not be a color that is designated to any tow vehicles. Amber or clear is a valid color.\\

just my opinion based on other state jursidictions i have seen
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The Dept reasons these vehicles are 'Police vehicles' regardless of whose driving them hence the red lights and siren.
 
CHIEFOPS said:
Unless they resumed installing those user placards recently, they disappeared when the Ford Crown Vics replaced the Chevy Caprices in 1995 or 1996.
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But smart sirens ss2000 are still used even in unmarked cars today to utilize siren and descreet lighting in many units . Some have placards riveted to the drivers flipdown sunvisor mirror.


Alot of these vehicles are called special detail or non descript unmarks.
 
CHIEFOPS said:
The Dept reasons these vehicles are 'Police vehicles' regardless of whose driving them hence the red lights and siren.
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yes but back in the late 90s they all ran amber before they were deemed "police vehicles" by someone who had the bright idea to authorize them..


same goes for sanitation enforcement.....originally amber but now blue and red.... I guess they need those red and blues to catch someone that is not recycling their trash ....


and did i mention MTA surface maintence tows for buses too..now running reds....


new york does everything backwards...thats why its called zoo york lol
 
Dpenhaul said:
yes but back in the late 90s they all ran amber before they were deemed "police vehicles" by someone who had the bright idea to authorize them..

same goes for sanitation enforcement.....originally amber but now blue and red.... I guess they need those red and blues to catch someone that is not recycling their trash ....


and did i mention MTA surface maintence tows for buses too..now running reds....


new york does everything backwards...thats why its called zoo york lol
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The only TA trucks that run red to the front are emergency response trucks which do not have sirens. I have yet to see a TA tow truck with red to the front. All TA trucks have had amber to the front and red to the rear since the early 90's, it's noting new.
 
Not to mention they say, or at least used to, POLICE EMERGENCY.


Like, no fvcking sh!t? Is that why the Police emergency lights are on? You know, the ones you can actually see!
 
Dpenhaul said:
yes but back in the late 90s they all ran amber before they were deemed "police vehicles" by someone who had the bright idea to authorize them..
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Keep in mind, from their inception in the 1970s until the late 1990s, NYC Traffic Agents were employees of the NYC Dept of Transportation (or was it Traffic?), wore brown uniforms and operated a fleet of brown vehicles (hence the nickname "Brownies"), so their vehicles sported amber lightbars.


When their function was absorbed by the NYPD in the late 1990s, their uniforms changed, fleet color changed (twice), and since they are now NYPD, their fleet are now VTL 'Police Vehicles' so they legitimately have red lights and sirens.
 
EL1998P71 said:
I like the SLR rotator lights, the the frame it's mounted on is very chunky.
Looks like someone had some scrap metal and stuck lights on it.


Where as with the Vector/Vision, the light pods fit the frame better.


I wonder why they just didn't put those pods inside a regular vector setup? ( or did they? )


Just my 1 cent (gotta cut back somewhere in the economy :p )
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I've pondered that exact question multiple times, why so big, chunky. Why move away from aesthetics to such a rough looking platform from past models. Then it dawned on me. No doubt Fed Sig's single largest client of this bar being NYPD, required a base that would stand high enough that the rotator pods were not obstructed, but was high enough and strong/rigid enough that a Whelen Edge Messenger could be mounted, and not impede the bar's regular functions.


I've not seen one in person, but from looking at the top picture, it certainly appears that whoever did the measuring from the end of the top of the Whelen Messenger to the bottom/start of the Pod's didn't spare much space.....just an observation.
 
Just saw a brand new FDNY battalion chief GMC pickup with a vision slr bar in Queens. It was off so I can't report on colors. I'll try and snap a picture next time I see.
 
Standard NYPD siren is the SmartSiren.


If the vehicle has any version of the Vision lightbar, it will be sounded by the Smartsiren. If other lightbars are installed, it's likely sounded by the SmartSiren. I'm aware of some unmarked vehicles using the PA650, but they're the exception not the rule.


FWIW, a FedSig rep told me last year that going forward the NYPD SmartSirens would be configured so a constant siren tone could not be latched on without the slide switch being enabled in position 2 or 3
 
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