killCARB027
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killCARB027 said:Does anyone know whether or not fire trucks in Indiana are allowed to use Red and Blue flashing lights? The Indiana Code sections IC 9-19-14-2 to 9-19-14-5 state that emergency vehicles Must be equipped with Red or Red & White flashing lights and that law enforcement vehicles Must use Red and Blue flashing lights. There's no section of the Indiana Code that outright prohibits the use of Red and Blue flashing lights on fire trucks but despite this fact almost all fire trucks in Indiana have Red flashing lights only. There are a few departments that have trucks equipped with Red & Blue lights (Gary being the largest fire department which outfits their rigs this way).
** I assume that Blue lights are allowed on fire trucks (at least unofficially) because sections IC 9-21-13-1 to 9-21-13-4 of the Indiana Code allow Red flashing lights (and maybe even Red & Blue lights) to be used on funeral escort vehicles/motorcycles. If funeral escort vehicles are allowed to use Red or Red and Blue warning lights then there's no logical reason to prohibit the use of these same lights on fire apparatus.
Cross-posted from patro530's reply in another thread.patrol530 said:316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.—(1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided.
(2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections or any county correctional agency may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.
(3) Vehicles of the fire department and fire patrol, including vehicles of volunteer firefighters as permitted under s. 316.2398, vehicles of medical staff physicians or technicians of medical facilities licensed by the state as authorized under s. 316.2398, ambulances as authorized under this chapter, and buses and taxicabs as authorized under s. 316.2399 are permitted to show or display red lights. Vehicles of the fire department, fire patrol, police vehicles, and such ambulances and emergency vehicles of municipal and county departments, public service corporations operated by private corporations, the Department of Environmental Protection, the Department of Transportation, the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, and the Department of Corrections as are designated or authorized by their respective department or the chief of police of an incorporated city or any sheriff of any county are hereby authorized to operate emergency lights and sirens in an emergency. Wreckers, mosquito control fog and spray vehicles, and emergency vehicles of governmental departments or public service corporations may show or display amber lights when in actual operation or when a hazard exists provided they are not used going to and from the scene of operation or hazard without specific authorization of a law enforcement officer or law enforcement agency. Wreckers must use amber rotating or flashing lights while performing recoveries and loading on the roadside day or night, and may use such lights while towing a vehicle on wheel lifts, slings, or under reach if the operator of the wrecker deems such lights necessary. A flatbed, car carrier, or rollback may not use amber rotating or flashing lights when hauling a vehicle on the bed unless it creates a hazard to other motorists because of protruding objects. Further, escort vehicles may show or display amber lights when in the actual process of escorting overdimensioned equipment, material, or buildings as authorized by law. Vehicles owned or leased by private security agencies may show or display green and amber lights, with either color being no greater than 50 percent of the lights displayed, while the security personnel are engaged in security duties on private or public property.
(4) Road or street maintenance equipment, road or street maintenance vehicles, road service vehicles, refuse collection vehicles, petroleum tankers, and mail carrier vehicles may show or display amber lights when in operation or a hazard exists.
(5) Road maintenance and construction equipment and vehicles may display flashing white lights or flashing white strobe lights when in operation and where a hazard exists. Additionally, school buses and vehicles that are used to transport farm workers may display flashing white strobe lights.
(6) All lighting equipment heretofore referred to shall meet all requirements as set forth in s. 316.241.
(7) Flashing lights are prohibited on vehicles except as a means of indicating a right or left turn, to change lanes, or to indicate that the vehicle is lawfully stopped or disabled upon the highway or except that the lamps authorized in subsections (1), (2), (3), (4), and (9) and s. 316.235(5) are permitted to flash.
(8) Subsections (1) and (7) do not apply to police, fire, or authorized emergency vehicles while in the performance of their necessary duties.
(9) Flashing red lights may be used by emergency response vehicles of the Department of Environmental Protection and the Department of Health when responding to an emergency in the line of duty.
(10) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.
nerdly_dood said:Who ever said this thread was only for American/Canadian laws?
jph2 said:Actually, Illinois and Indiana are both covered in the Official State warning law discussion thread. Iowa is, however, still missing.
kd0giz said:IOWA
RED: For use by any EV, Tow trucks while responding to a police controlled incident, and strangely enough hearses in a procession.
BLUE: Can be used on any EV except that a vehicle used by law enforcement must have the blue the the passenger side ONLY, Also color for Volly FF's with signed permit from chief with no regulated amount of lighting.
White: Usable by EMS Vollys with signed permit from EMS coordinator of department, school bus strobe, mail vehicles (any color shade between white and amber), and any emergency vehicle.
Amber: Must be a vehicle that presents a hazard, mail vehicles (any color shade between white and amber), security as well
Green and purple so far have no official laws on the books. Some hospital security have started using green.
EMFDKottwitz said:I hope this is the right thread to ask this, but I am about to take a road trip from NY down to NC through the states in the title. I was wondering if I will have any trouble with my lights. I've got a lightbar on the top of my car, a 4 head in the front dash, two 2-heads on the rear, next to the brake light. All but the rears are permanently mounted. They are all blue LED's, so there is no color showing and I have absolutely no intentions of using them if there is an emergency I happen to pass.
Just curious what I should do, if anything, before I go? I have the authorized blue light card required for NY state, plus my department ID card. Is there anything I should expect?
§ 20‑130.3. Use of white or clear lights on rear of vehicles prohibited; exceptions.
It shall be unlawful for any person to willfully drive a motor vehicle in forward motion upon the highways of this State displaying white or clear lights on the rear of said vehicle. The provisions of this section shall not apply to the white light required by G.S. 20‑129(d) or so‑called backup lights lighted only when said vehicle is in reverse gear or backing. Violation of this section does not constitute negligence per se in any civil action. (1973, c. 1071.)
dustymedic said:That's interesting, because I see construction vehicles with clear & amber 360 strobes all the time in NC...
dustymedic said:That's interesting, because I see construction vehicles with clear & amber 360 strobes all the time in NC...
BigWil said:Green flashing lights are restricted to volunteer fire fighters and certain volunteer medical responder. If you don't fit into those classes, green lights are restricted, whether facing front or back. If you use them, you could be charged with an HTA offence.
Ref: Ontario Highway Traffic Act, Section 62 (16)
Green flashing light restricted
(16) The following persons may carry on or in his or her vehicle and operate a lamp that produces intermittent flashes of green light:
1. A firefighter, within the meaning of subsection 1 (1) of the Fire Protection and Prevention Act, 1997, while proceeding to a fire or other emergency.
2. A prescribed class of volunteer medical responder, while driving a prescribed class or type of vehicle or engaging in a prescribed activity or in prescribed conditions or circumstances. 2007, c. 13, s. 17 (5).
firemedic10584 said:Anyone?? Bueler... :sleepy: