Thks a lot. And do you know how to transfer yelp and prty into the manual mode?(Which means the sound goes when pressed, and the sound stop when the button is lifted)
The siren is SS2000SB, in the version of NYPD.
Old NYPD electronic sirens
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The siren is SS2000SB, in the version of NYPD.
Just to clarify a little. NYPD has all 5 siren tones on their old ss2000's because the vision controller model of the ss2000 had all of those tones.
As for the way they have the 'manual' mode for yelp and priority. Thats simply a little trick the guys like to use by holding down the pa mic while the priority button is activated and it will stop any tones. Letting go plays the siren, acting like a manual button.
As for the way they have the 'manual' mode for yelp and priority. Thats simply a little trick the guys like to use by holding down the pa mic while the priority button is activated and it will stop any tones. Letting go plays the siren, acting like a manual button.
Yes, keying the PA mic PTT overrides any active siren tone so keying and releasing the PTT mimics manual use of the siren
Lots of signal stat action in this one. I never knew ESU used Van based REPs
I don't remember them either, maybe they selected a van chassis for '1 Truck' for it's shorter wheelbase to use in mid-town & lower Manhattan streets. I do remember those "low boy" pickup setups, I think they were on International Harvester platforms. This documentary was filmed in 1976, a year into the City's fiscal crisis, maybe the van REP was budgetary.
I know the department used a mix of REPs back then not including this. Ive seen pictures of the IHs and Dodges mostly and I've seen one picture of a mid 70s ford REP. I don't really know what was used when. If you look in the part with the barricaded EDP there is one of the IH REPs
does anyone still have a manual for the sp mark vii. i just found one with no wiring harness. if possible can someone email it to me at fire@teterboronj.org. thank you
Found a treasure trove of 80's and early 90's videos with tons of NYPD, EMS, and FDNY apparatus on youtube. Be warned, a lot of it is ugly stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCan6soCZKL5tGSfo4vSQcjg/featured
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCan6soCZKL5tGSfo4vSQcjg/featured
It looks like the NYPD PA300s were peak and wind down. 2:39 a 1990 Highway caprice shows up using the siren
That may have been specific to HWY RMP sirens or an oddball or even a personal touch by the officer(s) regularly assigned to the RMP because to the best of my memory the precinct RMP PA300s had instant peak & hold and no coast down.
Given the date of of incident in 5/90 I doubt that's actually a 1990 model year Caprice so if I'm right than that PA 300 pre-dates our fleet-wide application of them for the one model year they were standard between the SPs and the SmartSirens.
Given the date of of incident in 5/90 I doubt that's actually a 1990 model year Caprice so if I'm right than that PA 300 pre-dates our fleet-wide application of them for the one model year they were standard between the SPs and the SmartSirens.
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I currently have a Signal Stat Mark Seven Siren installed in my pov as a secondary siren.
Does anyone have a suggestion on how to fix the WAIL sound ?
Does anyone have a suggestion on how to fix the WAIL sound ?
It's a looooong sounds and honestly sounds like a dying animal.
I was told a while ago that its a known issue and can be fixed with some re-soddering of the "motherboard" but never got instructions with what exactly needs to be done.
Here's a question for you all. Of the Mark VII's that I've heard, some are generally higher pitched than the usual sound I expect from these. Were these variations from the factory, could age have something to do with it, or is there another explanation for this? Here's a comparison video to illustrate what I'm referring to - they were both routed through the same speaker (not simultaneously, of course 
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).Apparently there was a wide margin of acceptable range of sounds/pitch/etc. with these things. I learned that when I was trying to get a Stat VII to sound "right" with the help of MtnMan.
I'm not sure if your high pitched one came out of the factory like that or is a result of age, but the low pitch one sounds proper to me. Then again there's this video:
I'm not sure if your high pitched one came out of the factory like that or is a result of age, but the low pitch one sounds proper to me. Then again there's this video:
If you want to do some investigation, you could look for differences between the units in the resistor color codes and capacitor values. There may have been substitutions, either intentionally or out of expedience.
Even when new, resistors and caps have up to 10% variation, which can increase over time. Electrolytic capacitors are the most notoriously variable, but they would affect the wail / yelp rates, rather than the pitch.
Even when new, resistors and caps have up to 10% variation, which can increase over time. Electrolytic capacitors are the most notoriously variable, but they would affect the wail / yelp rates, rather than the pitch.
In my NYPD experience spanning the final 10-12 years these sirens were in use I'd say the low pitch was the norm and that high pitch was the exception, possibly a component deviation/failure or maybe modded by/for the retail owner after it left Dept service.
I was friends with the manager and the chief tech at SP in Harlem and had them perform a few mods on my personally owned sirens so it's possible this was modified.
I was friends with the manager and the chief tech at SP in Harlem and had them perform a few mods on my personally owned sirens so it's possible this was modified.
This may have been one of the new generation digital SPs they re-designed to meet the NYPD spec that ultimately was rejected
That's different....Here's a question for you all. Of the Mark VII's that I've heard, some are generally higher pitched than the usual sound I expect from these. Were these variations from the factory, could age have something to do with it, or is there another explanation for this? Here's a comparison video to illustrate what I'm referring to - they were both routed through the same speaker (not simultaneously, of course
It’s great to finally hear one in all modes! Were the PA300’s branded “PA300 Series” back in 1990, or is this a newer model configured to NYPD spec by Federal Signal?
User deelony posted the definitive 1990-spec NYPD Caprice in another PA300 thread I have. Amazing find!
The NYPD PA300s were not labeled "series" and they had the original paddle manual switch not the current toggle switch
Here's a question for you all. Of the Mark VII's that I've heard, some are generally higher pitched than the usual sound I expect from these. Were these variations from the factory, could age have something to do with it, or is there another explanation for this? Here's a comparison video to illustrate what I'm referring to - they were both routed through the same speaker (not simultaneously, of course
I don't care for either one, but if I had to choose I'd say the low pitched version sounds better.
It's not the old style circuit with the slow rising fast falling wail tone.
It's what the NYPD ran in 1990, none the less. Later in the video you can see that it's a black face siren box with "PA300" in white lettering.
The early very deep sounding models seem to be quite elusive, maybe mid-80's
Because that's a HWY car not a precinct car I can't say with certainty it's a 1990- their fleet was known to differ from the rest of the JOB in any model year, it could be an older car with a stock/retail PA300 before the standardized 1990 PA300s.
You would def know better than me. I do find it interesting that the siren in the old video sounds pretty much identical to the clip that mercury posted of his siren box. I realize that one is a much newer “PA300 Series” model, but Fed Sig could have configured it for the same tones.
I think the wail tone of our model year 1990 PA300s had a slightly longer windup before peaking and falling similar to FDNY. In any event they were not the "series" version and did not have the chrome toggle manual/air horn switch.
Assuming this somehow is an 'NYPD PA300' I can only guess it's a more recent version that was/is limited to certain vehicle types that don't do much emergency operation such as tow trucks, field command post vehicles or newly-merged traffic or school safety vehicles.
The ambulance pulls up, has a 174 on the cab roof behind the speaker, only the white lights are on. Refs are there, not on. Read somewheres there was a separate switching function?
Great videos, thanks. My department was the place nypd guys went after retirement.
Yes, but the typical setup was red+white or red only. So either this is an odd configuration or, considering it's in recently-bankrupt NYC, could just be that the reds are burned out.
hi guys, the manual is uploaded in this thread:
SP Mark 7 Wiring Diagram
I've been searching for a while but can't find a wiring diagram for a SP Mark 7 (NYPD)siren. Can anyone advise me as to whom I can contact for the diagram? Thanks.
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Sorry to necropost on such an old thread, but could I please have the Mark VII siren’s servicing manual? I’ve been looking to build one for a while, but information about SP sirens is near-impossible to find.
hi guys, the manual is uploaded in this thread:
SP Mark 7 Wiring Diagram
I've been searching for a while but can't find a wiring diagram for a SP Mark 7 (NYPD)siren. Can anyone advise me as to whom I can contact for the diagram? Thanks.
Click the post that was linked above yours, part way down you will find the manual as a PDF.