badge22 said:I am trying to under stand how things work in NY. When you call 911, do you get like a choice? Press 1 for Hatzoloh, 2 for FDNY EMS, 3 for one of the 50 hospital ambulances...I don't get how all these services are dispatched. Can someone chime in and explain?
VolEms said:When you call 911 you will get FDNY or one of the 911 hospital ambulances that are private. There are many private ambulances part of the NYC 911 system. These ambulances are on the same channel as FDNY EMS and are dispatched by the same dispatcher. If you want Hatzolah or any other private volly or paid service you need to call them direct.
firedude said:Hatozlah also listens to scaners from they command center and will dispatch crews that way.
Respondcode3 said:So what happens when They aren't avalible?
dovy6 said:Hatzolah does not and never has "buffed" calls from scanners. They get hundreds of thousands of calls a year, they don't need to get them from the EMS radios. Hatzolah has an emergency 7 digit number that the local community is taught from kindergarten. All their calls come from that (barring standby events, etc.)
firedude said:I've seen scaners installed in Hatzolah POVs and other rigs so I assumed that they buff'd some call in thir district. Didn't know that they tought kids the number in kindergarden.
Quick question, what happens on saturdays and religious holidays. Do they still run? Although I'm not in a hatozlah area, I'm part jewish. I'm very happy with what they do.
kkets323 said:nice install...what is that phone looking thing?
Respondcode3 said:They may have alot of POV and EMT's but what happens if they run out of ambulances to transport?
Respondcode3 said:They may have alot of POV and EMT's but what happens if they run out of ambulances to transport?
bwoodruff said:Just a shot in the dark, but I would guess they'd call for mutual aid from FDNY? I don't think that is a common occurrence though. They have a lot of resources, if you couldn't tell by the install on this POV.
bwoodruff said:Just a shot in the dark, but I would guess they'd call for mutual aid from FDNY? I don't think that is a common occurrence though. They have a lot of resources, if you couldn't tell by the install on this POV.
lafd55 said:FDNY EMS Participating 911 Ambulance Seal:
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FireEMSPolice said:Hope they changed it to take the twin towers outta there
FireEMSPolice said:Hope they changed it to take the twin towers outta there
FireEMSPolice said:Geez! Some people got their panties in a twist over my comment to alter the design.
Not that I care really. I am sure some people would rather see that to remind them of the painful day (I almost lost my uncle in one of the towers). I just like to keep things current, and that isnt the current skyline. Just saying.
FireEMSPolice said:Hope they changed it to take the twin towers outta there
arsenal10 said:"Hatzolah uses a fly-car system, where members are assigned ad-hoc to respond to the emergency. The dispatcher requests any units for a particular emergency location. Members who think they will have best response times respond via handheld radios, and the dispatcher confirms the appropriate members. Two members will typically respond directly to the call in their private vehicles. A third member retrieves an ambulance from a base location.
Each directly-dispatched Hatzolah volunteer has a full medical technician "jump kit," in their car, with oxygen, trauma, and appropriate pharmaceutical supplies. Paramedic (EMT-P) members carry more extensive equipment and supplies, including EKG, IV, injection, intubation, and more pharmaceuticals. Each volunteer is called a Unit (as in, a crew of one), and is assigned a unit number that starts with a neighborhood code, followed by a serial number for that neighborhood (e.g., "F-100" means "Flatbush unit number 100"). Ambulances also have unit numbers in the same format, with the first few numbers for each neighborhood reserved for the ambulance numbers. Some neighborhoods have begun to assign 3-digit unit numbers to their ambulances, using numbers out of the range assigned to human member units (e.g. 900-numbers).
In some areas there may be periods where coverage is not strong enough, for example on a summer weekend. When this happens, coordinators may assign an on-call rotation. The rotation may still respond from their houses, or they may stay at the garage through their shift. In such periods, Hatzoloh functions closer to a typical EMS crew setup, though the dispatchers may still seek non-on-call members to respond, and there will still often be a non-ambulance responder as first dispatched, even if that responder starts from the base.
Hatzolah's model provides for speedy first responder response times. Each Hatzolah neighborhood's response time varies. For example, in Borough Park, Brooklyn daytime response time averages under 2 minutes, every night from 11:30-5:30 there are 2 units assigned to be on stand by in the garage in case of an emergency. Night time average is also under 2 minutes. In the Beverly-La Brea neighborhood of Los Angeles response times average at sixty to ninety seconds."
I have never experienced Hatzolah first hand, but from what I've read and heard about they do quite a decent job with their response times. I love their idea of using a fly car system and response operations as a whole.
On another note, I'm surprised at their use of full light bars and red and white coloring as they are volunteers. I'm used to the blue for fire and green for medics in NY. Not sure where they stand on the spectrum of lighting laws.
d119 said:I can't imagine what their CA response times are like in heavy traffic, though. Here, they need to be registered as a private EMS with "agency-owned" vehicles, as there's no possible way they are getting RL&S on POV's in the State of California. Anyone have any details on this?
dovy6 said:I believe that Hatzolah in LA has a handful of RL&S permited cars that are owned by the agency.