Whelen ROTA-BEAM Family History

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  1. kitn1mcc

    kitn1mcc Veteran Member

    I do see the next hard to find light, The Sign Flasher
     
  2. dmathieu

    dmathieu Premium Member

    LOL, not for me. I'd like one of the original crossbars though.
    Also, the RB Commander!
     
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  4. joemac

    joemac New Member

    Any word on new plastic domes for RBII lights? Are new gaskets available?
     
  5. dmathieu

    dmathieu Premium Member

    They are definitely not available from the factory, but I may have some.
     
  6. joemac

    joemac New Member

    Thanks. That sounds expensive:eek:
    Here's my story: I own a 1947 American La France pumper that originally had a pair of red flashers on the rear that I wanted to replace with Whelen RBs.
    I volunteer some of my time helping out a fire museum where my engine is stored. The other day I bought a pair of RBIIs from the museum.
    I spent some time looking through all of the parts for these lights, hoping to find some good red globes and decent gaskets.
    All of the globes were either cracked or broken.
    I picked the two best ones and I'm polishing them and have glued the cracks with liquid styrene glue.
    I called Whelen yesterday and had two girls tell me that they won't make new parts for old lights.

    The museum probably has thirty pairs of these lights ready to sell, but no good globes and no good gaskets. I'd like to help them out and see some of these lights fixed up and sold. They desperately need revenue. They also have a couple of dozen rigs with cracked/broken globes and dried out gaskets. I know collectors who would also buy these parts, but they're NLA.
     
  7. dmathieu

    dmathieu Premium Member

    Yeah, because of the twist on design of the domes, the domes were definitely a weak point on these lights. Good domes are not cheap. I just bought a nice red, and paid a high price for it, as red is hard to find in really nice condition. I have a few of other colors also, but for the time being, unless the price was right, they will stay in my collection.
     
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  8. joemac

    joemac New Member

    I'm very surprised that they didn't learn from the early models that also cracked at the top of the dome. They should have reinforced the plastic at the flimsy mounting points. They could have made the plastic heavier to withstand the strain. Maybe they were aware of the weakness and just decided to sell more replacement globes. Built-in obsolescence.
    I wonder if the globes could be easily made by someone else.

    How about new gaskets?
     
  9. dmathieu

    dmathieu Premium Member

    LOL, you think they are expensive now....wait till you get a custom made price!
    I might have a few dome gaskets.
     
  10. dmathieu

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  11. dmathieu

    dmathieu Premium Member

    S6305819.JPG S6305822.JPG Updated picture of the ROTA-BEAM portion of my collection.
     
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  12. dmathieu

    dmathieu Premium Member

    Oldest automotive ROTA (O)-BEAM RB10 1955-
    Newest automotive ROTA-BEAM R416 2013-
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  13. dmathieu

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    Here's a nice one.!
    110V AC RB11
    One red, two clear S6305837.JPG S6305838.JPG S6305836.JPG
     
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  14. kitn1mcc

    kitn1mcc Veteran Member

    that clear one is were its at
     
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  15. dmathieu

    dmathieu Premium Member

    A rare bird for sure!
     
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    dmathieu Premium Member

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  17. RyanZ71

    RyanZ71 Senior Member

    That would have looked sweet in service..
     
  18. dmathieu

    dmathieu Premium Member

    Just grabbed a NOS New In Box, unused Rota-Beam Model 66.
    This is dated 12/1991, one of the last ones made.
    s-l1600 (4).jpg
     
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  19. OliverD

    OliverD Established Member

    Nice grab, so nice, so wonderful :rolleyes:
     
  20. Southern5

    Southern5 Registered Member

    IMG_0414.JPG IMG_0415.JPG Great info! I may have overlooked it, but what do the rb11's go for? I picked up a couple today at a local antique store. Both have cracks on one of the pins. Both work great. Gaskets are a little dry rotted, but overall decent shape.
     
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  21. dmathieu

    dmathieu Premium Member

    In that condition, without seeing and hearing them run, maybe up to $50 each on a good day. Good domes are hard to find, and costly. Motors and gear trains get loose and noisy also reducing value. Gaskets and badges also reduce.
     
  22. Southern5

    Southern5 Registered Member

    Thanks for the info! They run quiet. One of the badges is not legible at all, other one is decent. Thanks again for the info, I came out pretty good. Not good as I hoped though!
     
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  25. kitn1mcc

    kitn1mcc Veteran Member

    ahh westfield
     
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  27. kitn1mcc

    kitn1mcc Veteran Member

    Joined
     
  28. dmathieu

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    NOS very early vintage DEPUTY Portable S6306065.JPG S6306066.JPG Dash Mount with factory hood, and factory bungee cord.
     
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