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Whelen Serial Communications Primer


Here and there, the topic of the Whelen serial controlled products comes up. I am writing this to provide as much information here as possible to make it a little easier to understand what it can do and its limitations.


Introduced in the 1990's was the Whelen “BLINK” product. It is now known as part of the "SC" line, which fits in with Whelens two letter designators (HC, LC, SC, ST, etc). Serial components have model numbers starting with "BL".


Its core market were for large fleet vehicle operations and easy of maintenance of the modules. If a component such as the siren amp failed, all you had to do it disconnect the harness, swap them out and your good go to. Only component that would need to be reprogrammed, if necessary, would be the MPC.


This system consisted of a MPC01 (Multi Purpose Controller), the BL10000 lightbar and the BL627 siren amplifier. This was the core system. What was unique about these products from the standard Whelen offerings is that each operated off of RS485 data stream at 9600bps sent from the MPC01 controller. This controller was programmed from a computer running DOS software and was interfaced thru a special box known as the "Transporter".


One of the advantages to this RS485 data system is that it only requires one data cable (two wires, plus a drain wire) to each component. This eliminates running multiple 12vDC control wires throughout the vehicle. Due to the data nature of the system, you can daisy chain from one unit to another eliminating multiple runs of data cable from the MPC01. Depending on the component, you can have more than one of the same items in the system (two amps, four flashers, etc).


In the typical setup, the wires from the MPC01 will run directly to a BL627 siren amp. This is done as audio from the PA mic is routed to the amp via a 5 wire cable. After that, 2 wires are only needed.


What is nice about computer programming a control box, the MPC01 is able to have specific modes of operations for each component in the system on a per switch basis. For instances, you can program slide switch one to operate the front strobes of the BL10000 in a random pattern and the siren to automatically come on. You then could program slide switch 2 to operate just the front corner strobes, and the rear center strobe only. Many different combinations are possible. Each button can have specific programming that is unique to each other buttons. There is a higherachy to the programming in case you have multiple modules operating with different buttons. Slide switch has the highest priority, followed by the push buttons, with the auxiliary inputs as the 3rd. What this means, if you have push button 1 for front strobes, and slide switch 1 as all bar with strobes on a different pattern, the programming for SS1 will override whatever you have button one programmed for, in terms of the strobe operation. If push button 1 just turned on the takedowns and SS1 turned on as above, the TD's will stay lit. They do not turn off any other function, unless programmed that way.


In addition to custom programming without having to rewire the entire lightbar, each component has built in real time diagnostics. If there is a failure of any component, the MPC will emit a fail tone (if enabled) and flash the LED light on whatever function is running. A manual "all systems: check can also be performed by holding down the last push buttons for 5 seconds. The system will then turn every component on in sequence. SI-Testing of the siren is also available.


Another feature of the MPC01/02/03 is the hands free lightning option. If the unit is in slide switch 3 position, and the siren knob is HF, any press of the MAN button and/or the horn ring will change the siren tone (if setup) and light options (if setup). Commons setups were the first press placed the strobe bars in to single flash mode with the yelp and faster wigwag and taillight flash patterns. To exit out of that mode, all you have to do is move the SS to another position or the siren knob out of HF. So essentially, you can have 4 different modes of operation in the SS3 position and HF mode.


The MPC01 contains the following controls:


-System on/off toggle switch


-Four position slide switch (0,1,2,3)


-Six momentary buttons


-Dedicated air horn button


-Dedicated manual siren button


-7 position siren knob (Radio repeat, PA, Manual, Handsfree, Wail, Yelp, Pier)


-Microphone input


In addition to the above, the MPC supports two external inputs and two external outputs. All of those four are ground inputs or ground outputs to allow non-BLINK to be controlled, or to be controlled by other products.


Currently, the MPC can be programming with Windows based software called "SC Programmer". As of September 2008 the current version is 5.3.3. This software is backwards compatible with all released products.


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Whelen Serial Controlled Components


The following are all known model numbers and descriptions of released products


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MPC01 - Multipurpose Controller. This is the heart of the system


MPC02 - Same as the MPC01, but omits the siren controls and replaces the airhorn and manual buttons with traffic advisor and low power buttons


MPC03 - This is the "Cencom" style head and newest controller. This head does not require the "Transporter" interface box and can be programmed via a USB cable


MPC-NFPA - This is a modified version of the MPC01 which does not have a slide switch. It allows two inputs for "Calling the Right of Way" and "Blocking the Right of Way".


BL627 - Siren amplifier. This siren allows for up to two 100 watt speakers, and has the same tone set as the 295 series sirens. In addition to the 295 tones, you can program (via the MPC01/03/NFPA) "composite tones" for wail, yelp, high low and tri-tone. As of 2008, a newer version allows for dip switch control of siren tones such as Power call tones, and the "Q" sound. Up to two siren amps can be installed in a system and allows for in or out of phase tones and multiple tones (one per amp at a time). The pre "new tones" amps can be spotted with it have a 4 position dip switch. The newer model has an 8 position dipswitch.


BL2150 - Standard headlight flasher, first generation. This puts 12vDC + voltage on the headlight wires.


BL2150A - Current headlight flasher. This works the same way as the standard 2150A's which isolate the lights from the vehicle


*Multiple flash patterns can be used


BL5150 - Standard taillight flasher. This puts 12vDC + voltage on the vehicle wires


BL5150A - Current taillight flasher. This isolates the vehicle and flasher wiring


*Multiple flash patterns can be used


BL74C - 4 outlet, 70 watt comet flash strobe power supply (discontinued in favor of the ISP series)


BL94C - 4 outlet, 90 watt comet flash strobe power supply (discontinued in favor of the ISP series)


BL148C - 8 outlet, 140 watt comet flash strobe power supply (discontinued in favor of the ISP series)


BL188C - 8 outlet, 180 watt comet flash strobe power supply (discontinued in favor of the ISP series)


ISP94 - 4 outlet, 90 watt strobe power supply. Allows BLINK, DOT and conventional operation


ISP188 - 8 outlet, 180 watt strobe power supply. Allows BLINK, DOT and conventional operation


BL405A - Four outlet halogen flasher, supports up to 5 amps per outlet.


BL420A - Four outlet power switch, 20 amps per outlet. Also able to be used as a flasher


*The above can flash at the following rates: 70SF, 140SF, 60DF, steady on


BLTA - This is an 8 lamp traffic advisor. If using a BL10000 lightbar with all rear strobes, you can use the lightbar arrow and this traffic arrow at the same time. This does not work when using an Ultra bar - one or the other in that case.


BLTAREM - This is a traffic advisor controller that you can use any positive switched 8 lamp traffic arrow with


BLTAREM6 - Same as above, but for 6 lights


BLDISTI - Power Distribution Module. If you have a very large installation, you can locate them all in one place, and connect them to one power and data source instead of running multiple power wires to the battery.


BL8140 - This is a high powered relay box. No flashing. This allows control of high (or low) current control of non-serial products. Depending on current needs outputs can range from 40 amps to 10 amps depending on the outlet(s) used.


SMART LINK Series


Whelen offers "prepackaged" systems in six standard configurations.


SMTLNK1 - MPC01, BL627, BL8140


SMTLNK2 - MPC01, BL627, BL8140, BLTAREM


SMTLNK3 - MPC01, BL627, BL8140, BLTAREM6


SMTLNK4 - MPC01, BL627, BL420A


SMTLNK5 - MPC01, BL627, BL420A, BLTAREM


SMTLNK6 - MPC01, BL627, BL420A, BLTAREM6


LIGHTBARS


There have been several lightbars made available that will work with the serial controllers. Perhaps the best and widely known lightbar is the BL10000 bar with its unique appearance. This bar can be instantly recognizable by its black cover on the top of the bar. It has the same basic form factor as the Edge 9000 series however it’s much wider than the Edge 9000, and slightly wider than the Edge Ultra. The BL10000 was available in the following configurations:


102000 - 4 front, 4 rear strobes


102H0 - 4 front, 4 rear strobes, two front, two side halogens


1020H - 4 front, 4 rear strobes, 1 front center, 3 rear halogens


102HH - 4 front, 4 rear strobes, 3 front, 3 rear and 2 side halogens


102I0 - 4 front, 4 rear strobes, 2 front, 2 side immobilizers


102IH - 4 front, 4 rear strobes, 1 front, 3 rear halogens, 2 front, 2 side immobilizers


102HI - 4 front, 4 rear strobes, 1 front, 4 rear immobilizers, 2 front, 2 side halogens


1020I - 4 front, 4 rear strobes, 1 front, 3 rear immobilizers


102II - 4 front, 4 rear strobes, 3 front, 3 rear, 2 side immobilizers


10300 - 5 front, 7 rear strobes


103H0 - 5 front, 7 rear strobes, 2 front, 2 side halogens (popular model)


103I0 - 5 front, 7 rear strobes, 2 front, 2 side immobilizers


1030H - 6 front, 4 rear, 2 side strobes, 1 front, 3 rear halogens


1030I - 6 front, 4 rear, 2 side strobes, 1 front, 3 rear immobilizers


10400 - 7 front, 7 rear and 2 side strobes


So now you’re asking, what is the difference between halogens and immobilizers? Simple...no clue! Both are halogen lights to my knowledge, and are capable of steady burn, single or double flash. Other than that, I really don't know.


The bar is cable of synchronized or "out of phase" strobe patterns and a backlit sign and cruise lights were an option. Integrated into the BL10000 was the ability to do strobe traffic advisor patterns. No matter how many rear strobes you had, it could to left/right/split/in-out. Of course, more strobes you had to the rear the better it looks.


Strobe flash patterns consisted of:


Simultaneous


Alternating


In/Out


Crossing (strobes left/right)


Random


Up to three can be selected per mode which it would rotate thru.


Around 1999/2000, when the newer Edge bars were released, the Edge Ultra for serial communications (Edge Ultra SC) replaced the BL10000. This bar could have just about every option that the normal Ultra bar could have. Same goes with the LFL Patriot SC, LFL Liberty SC, LFL Liberty ST (extended corner liberty) and the Freedom Series. As with the BL10000, if you have fully populated rear strobes, the Ultra bar can support a strobe TA. If you desire a split TA or a full halogen TA, an internal T/A controller will have to be bought and installed (unless order from the factory that way).


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Serial communications off shoots


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A few off shoots of the SC series have been developed that do not require a MPC controller. These would be the Smart Arrow messengers (which can be interfaced into the same data stream, reducing wiring).


For a time, Whelen made a low cost product based on the serial protocol. These were the "Diagnostic" bars and controllers known as the PSDS-9 units. The controllers look just like the PCC-9 series switch boxes but have a red LED light over each push button. If there is a lightbar component failure, the LED will light up to let the user know that something is wrong. To my knowledge these were only factory and not field programmable. Major customers of these were the Connecticut State Police and the Ohio Highway Patrol.


The current byproduct is the WeCan lightbars. They used the same data wire system from the lightbar to a "universal control point". This control point is programmed via WeCan software, but the bar is then switched using normal means.
 
I was going to ask about upgrading the alley lights and takedowns on a blink edge ultra bar from halogen to led. Is there anything that once the halogen bulb and reflector is removed that will just fit in as a direct replacement? Im not talking about changing the halogen bulb to an led bulb or anything like that. But an actual whelen led takedown or alley module. Like the lr11 led alley modules for example.
 
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So I figue Ill try here first since this is a blink question. I like the flash patterns that are available with the cencom series of controllers. I just finished an install on a truck using a Cencom Red and I really like all the arrow stick patterns, some are very similar to the nysp patterns. Has anyone tried to add new flash patterns to the mpc 01 or 03? I currently have an 01. Is it just a software update or wold it involve adding code to the current programming?
 
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What you see is what you get. 8 patterns for the halogen and LED T/A's and 1 for the strobe T/A.


Any modification would be in the firmware of the I/O board, and good luck with that!
 
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So I figue Ill try here first since this is a blink question. I like the flash patterns that are available with the cencom series of controllers. I just finished an install on a truck using a Cencom Red and I really like all the arrow stick patterns, some are very similar to the nysp patterns. Has anyone tried to add new flash patterns to the mpc 01 or 03? I currently have an 01. Is it just a software update or wold it involve adding code to the current programming?

member "bobbyj" has been adding patterns to our cencom reds for a few weeks now. I know its not the easiest thing to do but he is a computer engineer and has some experience with code and what not.
 
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Cencom reds + BLINK = not the same software setup.


The CCRED's were easy to modify. A member here has been modding them since they came out, as its all software based. They changed the programming language with the Gold's, and made it very difficult to do.


The BLINK stuff works off of firmware in the boards. The controllers send to the bar: 64 02 01 01 01 10 2F F6 00 00 00 9E


The I/O board in the bar sees that and says: oh, I need to turn on all strobes with the cometflash pattern, sync'd.


So one would need to pull the controller chips, extract the firmware, decompile it, rewrite and recompile it, burn the PROM and hope that it works :)


Whelen made a modification to the first generation LFL and Ultra LC lines to allow "personality" boards to allow for custom flash patterns/operations at $50 a plug in chip, but where not BLINK items.
 
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You said 8 flash patterns....I have the led stick and when i hit the button on the controller I only cycle through 4......left, right, center out and the basic flash. I saw in an earlier post NYSP uses blink with a custom pattern, is that just their lightbar pattern I see, or is it also a custom traffic arrow pattern. I have noticed that they have quite a few arrow patterns they cycle through!
 
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I'll be trading some stuff for a Whelen edge 10000 blink soon(from a member here). I'll need to find amber end caps and I'm sure I'll have questions to follow! Yes it's going on my ford ranger too. No siren but maybe a traffic director if I can locate one! What have I got myself into:yes: :eek:
 
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Sequence to triple flash, sequence to double flash, sequence to solid, flashing solid, 2 lamp sequence to double flash, 3 lamp sequence to double flash, 4 lamp sequence to double flash, sequence to solid - sequence off
 
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Also the NYSP bar patterns are just comet flash and single flash that alternate pairs which you cannot do with standard blink. You can if you wire the lightheads in a certain way but that would preclude some other stuff from displayin properly
 
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I hate to bring an old post back, but am running into an issue. To solve it, want to make sure I am headed in the right direction.

First off, I have installed 2 complete B-Link Systems in 2 of our fire trucks.

I am wanting to install a 3rd in our brush truck.

2 part question dealing with arrow stick controllers. Was there ever a B-Link arrow controller that was for LED's?

In a Freedom setup, if you want an arrowstick, is that part of the rear LED's(Like a Liberty) or do you have to add a seperate controller?

I have a HC Freedom(TXDPS) and am trying to control the rear arrow through the MPC-01, but keep getting errors regardless of type of controller(Obviously because it senses a bulb out due to low current draw).

Can I solve this by changing the board out to a Freedom SC board and gain an arrow without any issue?

Jordan,TCFD
 
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I hate to bring an old post back, but am running into an issue. To solve it, want to make sure I am headed in the right direction.


First off, I have installed 2 complete B-Link Systems in 2 of our fire trucks.


I am wanting to install a 3rd in our brush truck.


2 part question dealing with arrow stick controllers. Was there ever a B-Link arrow controller that was for LED's?


In a Freedom setup, if you want an arrowstick, is that part of the rear LED's(Like a Liberty) or do you have to add a seperate controller?


I have a HC Freedom(TXDPS) and am trying to control the rear arrow through the MPC-01, but keep getting errors regardless of type of controller(Obviously because it senses a bulb out due to low current draw).


Can I solve this by changing the board out to a Freedom SC board and gain an arrow without any issue?


Jordan,TCFD
Yes they have an external blink ta flasher, is it for leds not sure. I would do the swap with the SC freedom board, it should be easier to get it to work.
 
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So, this hasn't been dead for too long... Does anyone know what lenses will fit the bar? I've got blues but I'd like to swap out to reds or if even possible all clears. but probably red.
 
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An lfl or liberty frame is shorter in height than an edge 9m or 9000. As far as I know blink was used in both platforms. Or you don't even use blink at all and are in thr wrong thread, either way we need more information about said "bar"
 
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What is the difference?

I updated
It gave me more insight on the bar, but doesn't mention the frame style he was asking about. Or I didn't see it
The post shows a picture of every major edge model, that can be a bit overwhelming and hard to sort through.  Lightbars termed "Edge" fall into two basic heights, LFL and regular.  LFL is also know as patriot or liberty.  Full height edges are one of a few varieties, 9000, E, 9M, etc.  There was also the specific BLINK frame in the late 1990s, which was wider, but the same height.  Whelen also used serial control like BLINK in other platforms. What varies most is width.  That allowed Whelen to alter only the endcaps.

The front lenses of all "full height" edge products should be interchangeable, as should all LFL size lenses.  Generally the only difference in the lenses are optic styles (minor changes) and endcaps.
 
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The transporter box can be picked up new from Whelen. They are hard to find in the wild (eBay, here, etc). They are not cheap - and if bought new will come with the software. The box will also program the Smartarrow Messenger.


You only need the box if your using the MCP01, 02 or NFPA. The MPC03 does not require the box.

Well to be technical, there is no Edge 9000 in a BLINK format. Its either a BL10000 or Edge Ultra SC for the strobe bars. They did make a "diagnostic" bar in the 9000 frame that uses serial control, but in no way can it be controlled by a MPC series controller. It uses the PCDS9 controller with custom firmware.


Used transporters are very rare to find, and new ones are $200+ last I checked. MPC03's are rare to find used and expensive to buy, but are usb programable.


A few members here can program MPC 01/02/NFPAs as we have the transporters.

They do sell aftermarket USB cables to program MPC01's on ebay that do not use a transporter

I have some good news for you guys.

Yesterday i programmed My smart text Messenger without a transporter.

Just a regular rs232 > rs485 converter. in my case the Blackbox IC1655A.

With these settings:

-9600 baud.

-2 wire.

-echo on.

-send data control.

Used it on a hp probook 6560b with windows 7 and a hardwired rs232 port and run windows xp in VMware.
 
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I have some good news for you guys.

Yesterday i programmed My smart text Messenger without a transporter.

Just a regular rs232 > rs485 converter. in my case the Blackbox IC1655A.

With these settings:

-9600 baud.

-2 wire.

-echo on.

-send data control.

Used it on a hp probook 6560b with windows 7 and a hardwired rs232 port and run windows xp in VMware.
That is a real step forward in this line of products.  Will do a quick "tips and tricks" write up on it?
 
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Does anyone have the part number for the trasnporter, cables, and software for a Smart Arrow Messenger?  The control head that we have is the MGC02.  Emailed Whelen with negative results. 
 
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Can anybody help??


I installed a MPC01 controller, that connects to a BL627 amplifier, then connects to a LFL liberty lightbar. Trouble is is when I run the siren the siren sounds for about 3 seconds then restarts. When I disconnect the light bar from the communication wires the siren works fine. Is there a trick to adding a light bar with comm cables to a siren amplifier and control box?
 
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Can anybody help??


I installed a MPC01 controller, that connects to a BL627 amplifier, then connects to a LFL liberty lightbar. Trouble is is when I run the siren the siren sounds for about 3 seconds then restarts. When I disconnect the light bar from the communication wires the siren works fine. Is there a trick to adding a light bar with comm cables to a siren amplifier and control box?
Wire the bar to the MPC01 first then wire the BL627 in.
 
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Wire the bar to the MPC01 first then wire the BL627 in.
Figured it out.  Seems the box wasn't programed for a duo light bar traffic advisor and it was making the system confused.  Ended up unplugging the traffic advisor's power source and the system functioned perfectly.  Now if I could only figure out how to program the box without having to send it off to someone and getting charged an arm and a leg to get it programmed incorrectly several times.  Wish someone would have made some progress or posted about "DYI transporters".
 
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Figured it out. Seems the box wasn't programed for a duo light bar traffic advisor and it was making the system confused. Ended up unplugging the traffic advisor's power source and the system functioned perfectly. Now if I could only figure out how to program the box without having to send it off to someone and getting charged an arm and a leg to get it programmed incorrectly several times. Wish someone would have made some progress or posted about "DYI transporters".
What are you paying for programing?
 
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In an ongoing quest to upgrade my Edge Blink strobe bar to a Freedom LED bar, I have yet another question, I understand that to go LED and retain the BLink system I need a SC Freedom I/O board....... what is the diff, between a SC Freedom and Liberty I/O board. would a liberty board work? Im finding those on ebay cheap, but no Freedom boards at all.
 
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Just installed my B link 10000 in all Amber. I did it on my 06 gmc 2500. I set it up with a 50amp fuse, I'm just hoping having the bar hot all night doesn't drain the batteries. I suppose tomorrow morning I will find out.
 
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My BL10000 has a BLTAREM -module for a traffic advisor 8 light bar on the lower section of my edge 10000 bar, what do i need to change to enable that in the software when programing my mpc01?

the BLTA . . . . . . .Traffic Advisor™, includes BLTAREM (internally)

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anyone ever capture the output from the controller for each mode or button?
would a rs485 adapter using serial display do so?
Trying to build a tft touch screen controller that can output the needed code sent instead of the factory mpc01 thats so outdated in looks, still waiting on the adapter to try it

done some checking into the nextion screen and had good help determining if it would work once i sniff out all the codes that are needed:

"what you need is to put your command in the button's Press Release Event.

So if your command is 64 02 01 01 01 10 2F F6 00 00 00 9E for cometflash strobes and you have a button in your HMI as b1 that is what the user pressed to send the command, then in the Press Release Event of the button b1 you would put: printh 64 02 01 01 01 10 2F F6 00 00 00 9E
That will cause only 12 bytes being sent over the Rx/Tx wire - the 12 bytes of your command."
 
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The B-Links that my old department used starting in 1995 had the traffic advisor built into the back of the lightbar, so instead of strobe heads save for the outer, the back end was a traffic advisor. I big waste of what could have been an awesome back end strobe sequence. The county I live in now used the strobe heads in the back as a traffic advisor strobe pattern, thought that was neat, but yet ineffective when you have a left arrow or right arrow pattern using red and blue strobe lights.
 
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Mine has half height strobes in the upper rear and the lower are the 8 lights for the traffic advisor, that are connected to the BTLAREM inside (usually inside the BTLA bar)
 

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Does anyone have the part number for the trasnporter, cables, and software for a Smart Arrow Messenger? The control head that we have is the MGC02. Emailed Whelen with negative results.
I am going to second this. I'm looking for the same thing and cant seem to find any information. My boss used to work for a Whelen dealer and said he'll look but has yet to come up with anything. badge22 ill let you know if he does, until then any info from you guys would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
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I am going to second this. I'm looking for the same thing and cant seem to find any information. My boss used to work for a Whelen dealer and said he'll look but has yet to come up with anything. badge22 ill let you know if he does, until then any info from you guys would be appreciated. Thanks.


You email Whelen for the smart messenger software. They'll send you a CD for free.

I made a guide on how to build your own transporter for $20.00. That's exponentially cheaper than the oem transporter and I'm pretty sure Whelen no longer sells the transporters.

If your stuck on oem there are two listed on eBay. One for 500.00 but doesn't have all the cables and the one below at 725.00 which appears to have everything.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Whelen-MGXPOR...01-0268479-000-2-B-4-/201543882148?nav=SEARCH

Good luck
Seth
 
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You email Whelen for the smart messenger software. They'll send you a CD for free.

I made a guide on how to build your own transporter for $20.00. That's exponentially cheaper than the oem transporter and I'm pretty sure Whelen no longer sells the transporters.

If your stuck on oem there are two listed on eBay. One for 500.00 but doesn't have all the cables and the one below at 725.00 which appears to have everything.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Whelen-MGXPOR...01-0268479-000-2-B-4-/201543882148?nav=SEARCH

Good luck
Seth
Could you link me to that guide?
 
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