Wilson LED conversions - multiple models and repair

wilsonbr90

Wilson LED
Led conversion, population, and replacement of burnt out diodes!

No more replacing a head after a section Burns out and either throwing away or putting it in a box never to be used again.

Change rank, job, state? Need to change colors too? Can't stand that you bought all those lights and now you got to spend another fortune and make new holes.

Reuse the lights you already have! You know how many hours they have and what condition they are in.

Colors are: Amber, Red, Blue, Green, Purple, White.

There is also a few special order colors non-warning specific. Pink for the ladies ;)

Many many brands/ manufactures use the same platform of LED's and I'm constantly finding new lights.

UPDATE:

Here is the new pricing and tutorial to help figure out what series your lighthead uses

5mm

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These are commonly considered gen1. This is where led warning lighting was born. And it still continues to be used. I try not to convert these as it is time consuming. i can do them on a per job basis. $0.85 per led changed.

Star based leds

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This is the popular diode that I carry I. Stock. I usually have about 2,000 at any given time. This was used by whelen in their heads up until late 2008. It was also used in the talons and other units until a later date. It is also familar in 911ep lights and many other companies. This was the breakthrough for smaller lights with more output

Any light that uses this diode is $2 per diode changed. Ie a lin6 would $12 etc

Cree XR-E

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This is used by many companies and is still popular today. This replaced the star based in some regards because it was more efficient power wise and since it flow solders to the board it was heatsinked better

I can change these but its more expensive. It is $5.00 per diode changed. Ie a lin6 with these diodes would be $30.

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Cree XP-E

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These little guys are mainly found in whelen heads. They are about the size of a framing nail head.Primarily in the justice style heads like the newer con-3s and the LR-11 takedowns.

I can change them but the limited use of this diode makes it more expensive at $6 per diode changed. As noted though I CAN make colored lr-11's

Comparison between the xre and the xpe

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Philips luxeon rebel

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Luxeon rebel size comparison

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Size comparison to xp

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This is the newest diode on the market today. This bad boy are bright but they are also a pain. Your big companies like whelen and feniex use this series. Whelen has been the first one to be utilizing those diodes which has been proven detrimental, there was a process problem at philips which led to hundreds of thousands of these diodes to fail prematurely due to bad epoxy.

I can change these as well but for the size and work it takes the price reflects that at $6/diode. Ie a lin6 with these diodes would be $36

Last but not least, well maybe...

Its the OSRAM led

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This diode was popularly uses by sound off signal specifically the led3's. This was on my could not do list but I have successfully done a few for myself so I'm opening it. So yes I can do led3's now

$5 per diode. Ie led3 changed would be $15.

Many people ask me what diodes I am using. I cannot say other than they come from a name brand warning light manufacturer near me.

I did a side by side test with a whelen tir6b(blue)

I changed the leds out in 1 module with new blue ones. The second module I left it whelen.

Results: color to the eyes was identical. The light output on the one I changed was actually 20-50lux brighter than the whelen's.

I personally use lights I changed on my pov

Split colors are capable in a single head also.

Red/amber and Blue/ white Tir6 with a clear non-optic lens does not get split fail at a distance.

Feel free to ask any question.

Payment will be PayPal. Shipping is determined by you. However you ship it to me is how you will receive it in return and whatever you pay for shipping is what the shipping fee will be.

Also I've received lots of pm's but not a lot of product. Is there something specific people want to see me do? Send me a request and ill get it up!

Ill guarantee the heads. If they fail ill replace it if its my fault.

Brian

Lin6 amber before

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Lin6 split blue/amber

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Whelen 700series amber before

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Whelen 700series full conversion to blue

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Email for direct contact however posting here or PMing me is a more reliable source

Westernme963@AOL.com

Disclaimer: I am in no way, shape, or form affilated or supported by any company whom I retrofit their modules. I am a third party entity. Any previous ratings or certifications the light previously had will be voided. Any manufacturer's warranty that is present on the light will be voided. I am not responsible for any damages that may occur while using the equipment after the product is modified. Upon you agreeing to have me work on your equipment, you are waiving all rights of holding me accountable to any damage that may occur.
 
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shues

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It looks as though you don't want any services, so I have moved this thread to a more appropriate forum.
 

rwo978

Site Regular
Awaiting pics and more info...
 
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wilsonbr90

wilsonbr90

Wilson LED
Appologize to the mods. I was looking for a services offered category.


TIR6 ballast and non are also confirmed, I can do them


Rwo- work this week has been busy, night shift, I will try to post pics tomorrow
 
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wilsonbr90

wilsonbr90

Wilson LED
I don't think so. If there is a place to put the diode I could. If your willing to take one apart and send me a picture I could give you a better answer

Edit for update. Yes I can populate economy heads-2016
 
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rwo978

Site Regular
What he means is could you add 2 more LEDs in the 2 open spots to the module in the pic to make it a fully populated module.


Whelen LIN6 B depop.jpg
 
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wilsonbr90

wilsonbr90

Wilson LED
I wasn't aware if the economy modules had open slots. I assumed the optics and the boards were different hence the economy preface. If the economy is simply a depopulated lin6 then yes I have no problem fully populating it
 

rwo978

Site Regular
But, is the circuitry there to support 2 more LEDs?
 

Travieso

Newbie
wilsonbr90 said:
I don't think so. If there is a place to put the diode I could. If your willing to take one apart and send me a picture I could give you a better answer
Here's a pic of an "economy" 4 LED 500 series light head (Mfg. Date 2007). I'm not an electrical engineer, but it seems plausible at add the missing two LEDs to the light head. :undecided:


Can someone post a picture of the circuitry from a fully populated version?


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SireLite

Registered Member
Travieso said:
Here's a pic of an "economy" 4 LED 500 series light head (Mfg. Date 2007). I'm not an electrical engineer, but it seems plausible at add the missing two LEDs to the light head. :undecided:
Can someone post a picture of the circuitry from a fully populated version?


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Turn it on and put a meter on the parts where a LED would be soldered. If there is voltage then you could probably add LED's to it. It should show a reading of below 4 volts.
 
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Travieso

Newbie
SireLite said:
Turn it on and put a meter on the parts where a LED would be soldered. If there is voltage then you could probably add LED's to it. It should show a reading of below 4 volts.
Yup, they're hot! 2.4 VDC ... Now - what type of LED could / should be soldered in there?


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wilsonbr90

wilsonbr90

Wilson LED
I'd have to move the terminals around to bring up the voltage but I shouldn't have a problem populating them.


If someone wants to Guinea pig and its successful I'll do one head for free.


Can also do 700series super led


Pictures added.
 
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Shawn L

Premium Member
I have a pile of depopulated texas dps heads that are 400 series 6 over 6 deads, but they only have 4 amber diodes in the lower section, I would love to fill the top 6 with red, and add 2 more amber to the bottom, not sure how they are set up inside but I don't need a flasher built in or any thing, steady burn would be prefect.
 
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wilsonbr90

wilsonbr90

Wilson LED
Shawn L said:
I have a pile of depopulated texas dps heads that are 400 series 6 over 6 deads, but they only have 4 amber diodes in the lower section, I would love to fill the top 6 with red, and add 2 more amber to the bottom, not sure how they are set up inside but I don't need a flasher built in or any thing, steady burn would be prefect.
I haven't worked with depopulated heads. My main concern is if the circuitry is there to support the upgrade. Honestly its just something I would have to try on one and see if it works or make it work.
 
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wilsonbr90

wilsonbr90

Wilson LED
Udpated list of what I can do for certain. And partial price list.
 

wolfman

Member
I have a couple of 700 Series Super LED heads that are split blue/red that I can send you and have you try to switch them to all red. PM me your information (address, method of payment, etc). Love to give you a try!


wolfman
 
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wilsonbr90

wilsonbr90

Wilson LED
theroofable said:
Are they the same OEM leds or one that fits?
They are not OEM. But they are brand new from a reputable warning light manufacturer near me. Since I'm getting them on the side from them I'm not allowed to say where they are from.


I did a side by side comparison on a whelen tir6 the other day. The new led I changed out was right in the middle of the head. It was as bright or slightly brighter than the whelen. You wont be dissappointed
 

shues

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wilsonbr90 said:
It was as bright or slightly brighter than the whelen.
This makes it sound as if you are just eyeballing things. Aren't you using a light meter?
 
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wilsonbr90

wilsonbr90

Wilson LED
Your absolutely right. Just ordered a lux meter. I'll post official measurements when I receive it. Your eyes don't lie though.
 

MEVS06

Site Regular
This is a great option for the failed leds in some of the lightheads that are out of warranty. If I get my hands on a few heads I will send them to you to see what you can do with them.
 
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wilsonbr90

wilsonbr90

Wilson LED
MEVS06 said:
This is a great option for the failed leds in some of the lightheads that are out of warranty. If I get my hands on a few heads I will send them to you to see what you can do with them.
I appreciate it. I'm not trying to get rich. Just providing a service.
 

MEVS06

Site Regular
As Shawn L. stated this is also great to convert the depopulated TXDPS heads. PM on its way.
 

Shawn L

Premium Member
im not sure if the 400 series 6x6 modules will come apart? they appear to be potted over the depopulated areas .
 

K9Vic

Veteran Member
Shawn L said:
im not sure if the 400 series 6x6 modules will come apart? they appear to be potted over the depopulated areas .
They cannot from what I have looked, they are well glued or silicone together and will not separate. Same with the older 6 LED style corners that also sealed.


I have also converted capable LED modules from Whelen, FedSig, Code 3 and 911EP that use the 1watt Luxeon Emitter. I converted a Whelen Freedom 12 LED corners to amber and have worked fine for 10 hours so far. So it can be done and works well.


I am NOT in this business, please do not contact me about it. I am just saying that it can be done and I have done it with great success.
 
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wilsonbr90

wilsonbr90

Wilson LED
So with my new photometer I used 2 whelen tir6 with identical manufacture dates. Blue.


1 I left stock, the second I changed all the leds over to my stock.


I ran a few tests and the head I changed is about 30lux brighter at 10feet compared to the whelen.


Not a ton brighter, but measurable.
 
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wilsonbr90

wilsonbr90

Wilson LED
Shawn L said:
im not sure if the 400 series 6x6 modules will come apart? they appear to be potted over the depopulated areas .
Haven't received any yet so don't know for sure. Anyone wanna post some pics?


Update for other products


Whelen talons are doable.
 

Zapp Brannigan

Gold Supporter
wilsonbr90 said:
So with my new photometer I used 2 whelen tir6 with identical manufacture dates. Blue.
1 I left stock, the second I changed all the leds over to my stock.


I ran a few tests and the head I changed is about 30lux brighter at 10feet compared to the whelen.


Not a ton brighter, but measurable.
Are the blue diodes you have the deeper blue, or a lighter shade?
 
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wilsonbr90

wilsonbr90

Wilson LED
Can't tell you the NM right off the top of my head but it matches the whelen color perfectly. Look at the pictures
 

Zapp Brannigan

Gold Supporter
wilsonbr90 said:
Can't tell you the NM right off the top of my head but it matches the whelen color perfectly. Look at the pictures
I always find pictures and videos to be less than 100% great to accurately depict/describe TRUE colors. This is why I was seeing if maybe you knew about the older TEAL Whelen blue, versus the GOOD darker blue. This is why I asked you and did not just rely on a picture to tell me. As far as NM of the blue, well, I didn't need that, too lazy to look it up and compare to a chart lol!
 
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wilsonbr90

wilsonbr90

Wilson LED
It is an identical blue to my liberty bar with an 08 manufacture date. As well as my tir6 with an 07 manufacture date. I believe to to be the newer darker blue color.
 

shues

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Zapp Brannigan said:
I always find pictures and videos to be less than 100% great to accurately depict/describe TRUE colors. This is why I was seeing if maybe you knew about the older TEAL Whelen blue, versus the GOOD darker blue. This is why I asked you and did not just rely on a picture to tell me. As far as NM of the blue, well, I didn't need that, too lazy to look it up and compare to a chart lol!
You make it seem like there are two discrete shades of Whelen blue. In truth, there is a wide range of hues.
 

Zapp Brannigan

Gold Supporter
shues said:
You make it seem like there are two discrete shades of Whelen blue. In truth, there is a wide range of hues.
I am more talking the extremes. Yes, different batches of diodes, as well as the different diodes they used had different ranges. I will shut up now, sorry for asking questions, apparently I make statements that get misinterpreted.
 

chuckie321

Member
Makes sense to me... There are minor variations and major variations. I have seen three major variations in color on Code3 LEDX diodes... "Dark" blue, lighter blue, and freakin' teal.
 

RDT Car 25

Member
wilsonbr90 said:
Haven't received any yet so don't know for sure. Anyone wanna post some pics?

Update for other products


Whelen talons are doable.
I'm definitely interested in the Talons. I have a pair of sync Talons's that I could use changed to red. Any idea on a price for them?
 
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wilsonbr90

wilsonbr90

Wilson LED
Talons are $10 per head changed.


I'm also interested in trades.


Looking for some whelen 700 series clear lenses


Also willing to do trades on just about everything. Just shoot me a pm.
 

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