The All New Whelen Legacy...
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My guess would at least be $2800 or more. I think that whelen should discontinue the justice and they should have never made an century elite, and just made the liberty the low and mid level priced. But this is just my opinion.
Since I didn't see any firsthand testimonials (other than the videos), I'll chime in here. I attended IACP, spent some time in the Whelen booth, and GOOD GOD that thing is bright! Like it was the only bar that physically hurt to look at bright. The interesting thing about it is that the optics are designed so that the further away from the bar you are, the larger the footprint of the light appears. The Whelen guys say this was the intent of the bar. I also got to talk to Stuart (sirennet) for a few minutes, and he said that the manufacturing process is very interesting. He mentioned that is sort of a chassis (he says "sha-sey") within a chassis. I've been a Liberty/Freedom fan since they came out, and hands down, I would take this bar over any other bars that the big W currently makes (not for my POV, but for a marked vehicle - I don't do light bars).
leftcoastmark said:
IDK...not according to this FS update...
http://www.fedsig.com/docs/MU437_Legend_Improved_Performance.pdf
leftcoastmark said:
The horse poo is all on you. I have been to both Whelen manufacturing plants and everything is manufactured in the US. Give them a call they will gladly give anyone a tour or you can see their videos on YouTube.
lightguy256 said:
I want so see lightguy in one corner with a big W shirt on, and leftcoast in the opposite corner with a big F shirt on... anyone else with me on this?
foxtrot5 said:
My money is on leftcoastmark, because he is Canadian. Canadian seem nice intill you drop the black puck down.
Your all nutz. They are both good and awsome! But yelling about which corner lightheads are cooler and brighter? IMO whelen libertys from a side (SIDE) view is brighter! But you SHOULD NOT be driving if you cant see the corners and alleys flashing on a legend. This talk gets old. Yea look at my post count! lol
SNOW SYSTEMS said:
Outsider has been relatively professional and IIRC has not made reference to FS's products and horse poo in the same sentence.
foxtrot5 said:
well since iv been a member here since the Harv elightbars days, iv known mark as the fed sig guy and outsider as the whelen guy, collecting my evidence via old topics.
leftcoastmark said:
lightguy256 said:
I didn't say Whelen stuff wasn't made in the US.
I stated that it's not true that they are the ONLY ones that manufacture their stuff in the US.
foxtrot5 said:
I didn't call their products "poo". Whelen makes some very good products - we install some of them here on our vehicles. Again, it referenced the claim that they're the only ones who make their stuff in the US.
If the situation were reversed and another brand proclaimed "If you're not buying Brand B, you're not buying products made in America", I wonder what comments would fly around here.
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emtanderson51 said:
The only reason this bar is being made is to compete with the Valor! Fed Sig has been kicking the shit out of Whelen with the Valor. This is not an original idea - It is made to conform to bid specs for the Valor. Height, flash patterns, and multi color (starting to sound familiar?). Who would have thought that the big W would have to conform to a Fed Sig spec? Good job Fed Sig.
But wait there's more. A copy of the SoundOff 380R siren - the Whelen 295SDA1. This one is to compete with SoundOff's bid spec for a dual tone siren with 8 aux outputs. Again they were behind the curve. They could have at least changed it up as to not look like an exact copy.
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Lightbars looking the same is nothing new. They serve a specific purpose and the handful of companies that make them go back and forth "copying" or mimicking each others' technology. It started with the first siren lights and goes on today with multi color technology.
Great. I'm just finishing paying off my WeCan Duo Liberty and now this?
I will say I'm fairly certain I've got way more light with my SXTDLED takedowns. I'll find some solace in that.
I will say I'm fairly certain I've got way more light with my SXTDLED takedowns. I'll find some solace in that.
This was posted on Madden and Associates facebook page.
As for the "legacy" copying the "valor", really? Leds have gotten to the point that they really can't look all that different anymore.
The valor is a huge bar with good intersection warning, but install instructions state to install as high as possible, making it well seen even if not lit. Not to mention, mounted up that high, it's noisy as frig. Ask me, my assigned car has one...
The legacy, if installed in the fashion shown (not saying it's properly adjusted), hugs the roof making it difficult to see. It'll be a good option for those depts who want traffic cars, but require 360 deg roof lights. The liberty is a good design, it just needed a facelift, as it's going on nearly 10 years old. Hopefully, whelen will make the competitor series of legacy so as to not need the saphire to control it.
I HAD wind nose from my Valor. Then I leveled it better raising the front, now there is little to no wind nose and it is low to the roof.
that's nice you could do that quentin. however, it takes months to get menial things fixed for me. We had a car with a HAW out, the car's about 8 months old, it's been out for 5 months. Just finally now fixed. It had been put into our vehicle issues several times. So, for me to complain about the lightbar not being even............ yeah, not going to happen.
rwo978 said:
Never said it wasn't a good bar, but have not seen it yet either. Only said that the bar is probably made to the conform to a written spec for the height of the Valor, with the functional capabilities of a Valor in order to compete. Now as far as funcionality of a bar that "sits on the roof": Great for a sedan, but put any whelen bar on a Tahoe without adjustable feet - the bar points down in the front or is mounted so far back it looks weird. We build Tahoes in disperate amount compared to any other police or fire vehicle here. That bar aint gonna fly. You will have zero warning to the rear. A Valor, because it sits higher and is vertically adustable can be seen from about 10 feet behind a tahoe when mounted centered over the door seam. Is it a bizare, possibly hideously ugly bar? Yes, but it does a outstanding warning motorists. If you can get past the shape and mounting feet it is one of the best bars currently being made. No other bar will give you a warning progile that is half of a lightbar to 45 and 90 degrees (not including a vector or vision).
with the advent of low profile led bars, I've seen many SUVs with rear mounted TAs or supplemental lightheads. We also have Expedition with the Valor and have an additional TA mounted in the rear window.
With the information still young on these bars, it's hard to say whether an optional adjustable feet will be available.
With the information still young on these bars, it's hard to say whether an optional adjustable feet will be available.
Does anyone know price range and when it will be available. I'm doing a 2013 Durango Hemi install. I was thinking to install the Legacy.
That was in the reveal video. Check some previous pages in this thread, it's definitely somewhere in here.CodeMan said:
I have looked around, and cannot seem to find anyone that has the whelen legacy bar. Everything I see is "coming soon"
Anyone have one yet?
Anyone have one yet?
We had one here this week but keep in mind none of the demos out there are the final production bars and there will be some changes as I know the software hasn't been finalized and still in the beta mode. Awesome, awesome, awesome bar!
First it has to be the light output which is bright, eye catching, and depending on patterns you have full light all the time with no dark spots. It's loaded with usable features such as dual color, 180 degree alley lights, photocell, etc... The construction is also spot on. Remove 5 screws and you have access to IO board and all the wiring, and light heads. It seems very solid, it's super quiet, and very low profile. As you can see I'm a fan. I am awaiting final pricing and know it will be more than the liberty but it worth it in my opinion.
poesdad said:
Probably Code 3. It's all the rage in Georgia right now since GSP recently switched to them. Same reason everyone went with Whelen until now.
RL1 said:
If it is code 3, I can't imagine it being a defender.
I see the comparison of the liberty, and it looks quite a bit thinner, lower profile. If this bar is brighter than a liberty, with all the mentioned options, I think code 3 may have their hands full.
I've ways wanted to see a different mounting option for the liberty, to bring it down to the roof a bit more. I may just look in to selling three of our current liberty bars, to put money toward two Legacy bars on the new vehicles when we purchase them. I think someone on here already said the legacy should be around $2500, which is a little expensive in my opinion, but we will see.
Anyone find a video of the liberty vs legacy yet?
RL1 said:
Does anyone know, for sure that the legacy bar is actually mounted (strapped down) in the comparison photo of the liberty?
Just seems to be sooooo much lower profile.